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Old 04-09-2011, 09:40 AM
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hello, last year when I bought my Audi the rear brakes were in shambles. Over the course of a year I finially figured out that the growling noise was coming from the bearing and not the corroded disk or the stuck caliper.

caliper was rebuilt and the disk was just cleaned up via grinder. Yup, I know not the best way. but workes at getting the rust off.


Okay, so I jack the car up, grab the tire and low and behold, Yup. it moves about 1/8" top to bottom.


I have tools for pulling the bearing out of my SAAB I made back in the early 90's so decided to fabricate some new ones for the Audi.


For starters I needed a pulling plate( something to pull against). 2, a puller to pull the hub from the bearing before it's pulled from the wheel bearing housing (WBH). And lastly a way to put the bearing back in. Then the hub.

So, here we go....

Since there has been lots of talk of newbie Tiggers, I wanted to show what I have been learning in hopes of helping others.

1/2 Plate HR
240 amps
rotory amptrol
1/8" 1.5 Lanthanated
1/8" 70-6
15sfm Argon.

steel, tacked, welder, Root pass, back pass which was a little hot.

All comments welcome and appreciated.
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Old 04-09-2011, 09:47 AM
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You can see from the previous pictures that the weld bead for the first run is a nice straw color.

this next series is of some more beads with some issues of bubbling up where the work was bubbled and had to be ground back down to clean metal.

Here you can see good color in the weld bead again. Why is it beads always look so much worse on film.
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Old 04-09-2011, 09:52 AM
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the 1st 3 are of the second pass. The last pass I did in a double wide pass. Maybe I shouldn't have but oh, well.

You can see good consistant color in all the welds. Not the overly heated grainy beads I used to produce.
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Old 04-09-2011, 09:59 AM
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here are the final passes and the U cut out to go over the lip to pull the hub.

The cut out was just big enough to retain the bearing inside but pull the hub out.
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Old 04-09-2011, 10:08 AM
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Okay, the process worked okay. It pulled the hub without much of any hoopla.

When it came to the bearing it was a different story. My puller which I shall show later basically was at its limit to pull the bearing.

It did move it but only very little. I spent about 15minutes tightening it only to hit it with a hammer to create vibration and then got discouraged.


I ended up taking out the WBH and doing the bearing and hub reassembly there on the HF 50Ton press. Sorry no pictures. I wasn't thinking at the time.

Hind site:: (after WBH removal which was trying to avoid)

It wasn't till after I removed the WBH and noticed the bearing was being pulled from the WBH with the puller. The last time I had tighted the puller I waited a minute and went to tighted it again and it just about was loose. But again I wasn't sure. First time doing a wheel bearing on an Audi.

Anyhow, the last picture is of the unit all back together. I will post pictures of the puller and also I have been in the engineering phase to make a puller/ bearing installer and will tack them on here once it happens.


I have several Hydraulic contraptions I may adapt. One is a Knock out punch with short 3/8th pull and the other a coil spring compressor. I think the coil spring compressor will be the way to go since I'll only need to fabricate 3 or 4 pieces to make it work.

hub pull out, bearing pull out, bearing install, hub install.
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Old 04-09-2011, 10:18 AM
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Looking good, the double wide passes can get somewhat ugly at time, as it can get hard to judge the width, to keep the size constant. Being in the groove on the first and second pass keeps the bead all roughly the same size.


Miller Dynasty 350, nice machine, I love mine, is it yours??


I'm about to possibly buy another Saab, a 1966, 850 Monte Carlo (two stroke), this would be my 5th one.



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Old 04-09-2011, 10:24 AM
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Wow! I can almost understand what you're doing!

And the pictures are great. Thanks, Jennifer.
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Old 04-09-2011, 10:31 AM
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Looking good, the double wide passes can get somewhat ugly at time, as it can get hard to judge the width, to keep the size constant. Being in the groove on the first and second pass keeps the bead all roughly the same size.


Miller Dynasty 350, nice machine, I love mine, is it yours??


I'm about to possibly buy another Saab, a 1966, 850 Monte Carlo (two stroke), this would be my 5th one.



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I agree with the double passes. i was going to do another single bead pass but was getting anxiuos to make the puller plate to get the project rolling. As single pass beads would have taken 4 passes total. With the double wide. Took 3 passes to fill.

Yup the Dynasty is mine!!!

Been a huge learning curve since I only Stick and Mig and gas under my belt up to that point. I am still fine tuning, but getting there.

I own a 1966 850 Monte with sunroof, 2 GT850s, and a few shells. I'm actually on my way out of SAABs. I don't have the storage room or the time to work on keeping them rust free.

I love the snub nosers the best but will take any 2 stroke over a 4 stroke for fun car anyday.

I have a race motor for a V4 1700CC, 10.3-1 piston, solid lifters, mild cam, lightened flywheel sitting on the shop floor. Will make good power to 6500 rpms but will spin to 8500rpms easy.

Be sure and post up some pictures or the smoker.
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Old 04-09-2011, 10:33 AM
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Nice job Jennifer.
Like the detailing of your Tig.
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Old 04-09-2011, 10:37 AM
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Wow! I can almost understand what you're doing!

And the pictures are great. Thanks, Jennifer.

Madam, You are most welcome.

Sometimes I feel as though I am hogging up GIGs on the server and since I am using my Iphone 4 to take all the pictures now I haven't figured out a way to take smaller ones.


I hope they are loading okay for everyone.
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