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Old 01-17-2011, 10:48 PM
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I am running out of the oils that came with both my lathe and mill and need to know what to buy. The Southbend lathe says it wants three oils a light spindle oil (showing a viscosity at 70* of 150 drips per minute) designated oil "A", a medium way oil (viscosity 175 drips) oil "B", and lastly oil "C" a heavy oil (225 drips) for the gears and lead screw.
My Beaver Mill needs a spindle lube and a way oil.
I have looked into oils briefly and it seems common to have a light and heavy, but not as common to have 3 oils. Could someone recommend some oils by name and viscosity so I can order some. If it is available in quarts would be the best or gallons would be okay, as I don't want to store 5 gallon jugs.
Also, how frequently should I lube my machines? The lathe says daily, but I use it infrequently and only few a few hours at a time. I suppose it is better to have too much oil than not enough, nut was looking for some real world advice.

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Old 01-18-2011, 12:34 AM
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Ron will be along shortly to answer your question.
I had a similar problem with my jet in that the oils recommended in the manual were not available here.
I was able to purchase the oils I needed locally but I had to specify exactly what I wanted and accept no substitute.

The only container choices were 5 gallon pail or 45 gallon drum. I have lots of way oil on hand but it is in canada.
If you have a big machine shop /industrial supplier close by you may be able to get smaller quantities.

I ended up with an AWS 32 hydraulic oil as my main machine oil (needed 5 gal) and a designated BP way oil as that was my only locally available brand.
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Old 01-18-2011, 12:51 AM
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Without trying to sound too ignorant why can't you just use regular motor oil. Wouldn't a regular 30 weight for light oil and a 90 weight for heay oil do just as well as more expensive oils. It seems to me that a lathe would not be near so critical on oil quality as like running a 1000 hp engine in a race car. I'm sure some of you machinists will let me now how ignorant I am on this subject.
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:45 AM
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Here is a thread on Practical Machinist South Bend Forum; check post # 52

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...cation-180122/

Info from Steve Wells site

http://www.wswells.com/partslist/lub...chart_6503.pdf

And even more:

http://home.roadrunner.com/~rcbattelle/lathelubrication.html
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Old 01-18-2011, 01:54 AM
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South Bend specifically recommends not to use automotive oils as it can damage the bearings in the older lathes.

more sources for way oil:

http://www.southbendlathe.com/acc/wa...tting_oil.aspx

All 3 types from Ebay:

http://shop.ebay.com/bluechipmachineshop/m.html
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Chainsaw bar oil works fine for me as lathe way oil .I am told itsthe same as Mobil Vactra 2.

For the H S gearbox just a Non detergent oil. Castrol say Hyspin AWS 68 but every seems to have a different ideas .

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I use chain oil on the gears on my lathe and grade 46 hydraulic oil on the rest.
I also use grade 46 hydraulic oil on my mill.
I was told that it is the same as 20 weight machine oil.

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I use ND 20 weight and ND 30 weight.
My manual that came with my first lathe listed SAE 20 ND as an optional lubricant.
A couple years ago I was given several cases of SAE 30 ND that I also utilize.
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I use non-detergent 30 wt on the gears for the quick change, chain saw bar oil for the ways & fibered wheel bearing grease for the gears on the reversing tumbler.

But then again, I had to make some gears out of aluminum for the tumbler & they would spin off oil. I also put the same grease on the apron gears, oil goes in the bushings through the little oil holes.
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How much attention you should pay to the Lubricants used on any machine depends on your valuation of the machine.

Any lubricant is better than no lubricant.

Down time and repairs caused by improper lubrication can quickly exceed the cost of a lifetime supply of the correct lubricants.
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