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Old 07-21-2019, 10:04 AM
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Default Antique Barnes #5 Lathe

As Ironman requested, here are pictures of my antique Rockford? lathe. I say Rockford, because I found a label saying it was built in Rockford, Ill. In modern terms, it will turn 12" between 36" centers. I have a 4 jaw, faceplate, centers and drive dog, and steady rest for it, as well as some apparently shopmade collets, toolpost grinder, and what looks to be a milling vise. Compared to a modern lathe of similar size, it is very light and flimsy. It breaks down into pieces no more than 100# each. BTDT a couple times now.

As far as I can tell, this lathe is nearly 100 years old. The original lineshaft drive was an optional upgrade as there is evidence on the headstock leg that treadle drive was an option (note the drilled boss in the center of the leg). It was converted to an electric motor drive long before I had anything to do with it, but the original clutch on the jack shaft is still there and still works.

It is a change gear lathe with a back gear. The odd thing is it has not one, but two lead screws that turn in opposite directions. Flipping the feed lever on the apron one way from neutral feeds the carriage right to left, the other way feeds the carriage left to right.

The plate seen on the headstock leg gives different gear ratios required for threading.

There is no compound, and it has a simple rocker style tool post.

The only lathe I have seen of similar vintage was in the lobby of Modern Tool in Cowtown. That lathe was treadle drive and had a quick change gearbox.
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Old 07-21-2019, 01:19 PM
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The thing I like best about it, Cam, is that you have not been compelled to "restore" it with a paint job.
And judging, unfairly perhaps, from the tilt of the motor hanger, I'd guess that you didn't have to buy a $400 Starrett instrument so you could level the bed.
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Old 07-21-2019, 01:35 PM
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I see no chip pan so everything goes on the floor? Adding one would be a simple fix. Very cool looking machine.
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I dont know a thing about machine work, lathes, mills, etc, but that is an interesting machine!
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Old 07-21-2019, 05:43 PM
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The twin lead screws always amazes me.
You'd think a reversing rocker would be easier to make.
I was trolling about here and found a Canuck twin screw lathe. May be an aberration done up here.
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The twin lead screws always amazes me.
You'd think a reversing rocker would be easier to make.
I was trolling about here and found a Canuck twin screw lathe. May be an aberration done up here.
That Barnes lathe http://www.lathes.co.uk/barnes/index.html looks very similar to mine except for the custom cabinet. Even to the threading chart on the leg. Maybe mine is a Barnes. I will have to look again.

I am very suspicious of the name I used in the first post. The lathe doesn't match the Rockford/RockportRockford info on lathes.uk.co at all.
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That Barnes lathe http://www.lathes.co.uk/barnes/index.html looks very similar to mine except for the custom cabinet. Even to the threading chart on the leg. Maybe mine is a Barnes. I will have to look again.

I am very suspicious of the name I used in the first post. The lathe doesn't match the Rockford/RockportRockford info on lathes.uk.co at all.
You have a Barnes #5, look at the pictures in your link,
also the name should be cast in the legs.
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Dam, look what happened, Cam...
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Huh, #5 Barnes.....
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