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Old 09-27-2020, 01:53 PM
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This afternoon I went and looked at a Kearney & Trecker mill. It is a model 2CH universal. Has the universal head and parking attachment, the low lead table attachment, and two horizontal arbor supports. I think I can bring it home for $4000

Also has a 14x30 Sidney lathe that is from 1936. Has a taper attachment and steady rest and misc tooling. Haven't seen it in person yet.


Anyone on here have experience with either of the machines?

The table, saddle and knee all move almost effortless compaired to my Gorton mill.
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Old 09-27-2020, 02:03 PM
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Any pics? Not familiar with that model, offhand for a horizontal mill it’s priced high IMO.

Horizontal mills are like shapers, except for very specific production uses they are pretty much gone from the shops these days.


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Old 09-27-2020, 02:29 PM
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At the time I was a die caster at McGraw -Evens and got shipped to the machine shop to run a manual fed horizontal . Made it through the week without blowing up a slotter . If you crowed it ,it was easy to do .Pre OSHA .
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Old 09-27-2020, 02:51 PM
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Is there much carbide tooling that can be used in a horizontal mill, I’ve not seen any?

The cutters are generally quite large so will be expensive to buy. If using HSS tools you will need to find an economic way to sharpen them as they can’t be considered as disposable.


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I think I’ve seen one in Abom79 videos. That’s the closest I’ve been to one.

It is old iron for sure. If it works, and you have a need for it, go for it. It sounds too rich for my blood.

I run an old CINCINNATI vertical mill at work. It is a workhorse if a machine. It does not have super high spindle speeds like a newer machine, but it can remove metal for sure. It needed some TLC, which I have been giving it, so hopefully it will be around for a long time yet.




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If the lathe does not have a quick change gear box, pass.
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If the lathe does not have a quick change gear box, pass.


Also you can likely forget about trying to cut any metric threads if that is something you ever need to do.


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It is old iron for sure. If it works, and you have a need for it, go for it. It sounds too rich for my blood.

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Tim, that is good advice.
It can't do what the vertical mills can do, and just because it is old American iron, is no reason to buy it, unless you are running a museum.
Buy what you need as your business develops. Sometimes the market will take you into strange places you did not plan on going.
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Lathe does have a quick change gearbox. Seems that Sidney lathes are on par with Monarch and American Tool Works machines.

I actually have a selection of horizontal mill cutters. The biggest being 8" diamiter.

My.Gorton has a high speed spindle.

The K&T goes up to 1500 rpm I think.
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The last time I was running a K&T was 54 years ago, and it was old then. Once they found out I could read the charts and run a cutter grinder, I never had to go back to the K&T.
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