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Old 01-20-2015, 07:44 PM
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The angle iron with the flat strip would work and might be a labor saver.


I would find some of the correct sized square, rectangular tubing then weld on some ears for mounting as needed.. Not only would this cut down on fab and weld time but stuff is pretty easy to find..

The only thing I don't like about the rectangular tubing is the fact that if someone hits it with a slug/bullet from a high powered rifle it will knock dent into it.. If you use wide enough tube wouldn't be much of an issue since the boards could be shimmed backwards or forwards like in a stake pocket..
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Update time, lol...

So while I was cooking breakfast and trying out LadyD's new elcheapo toaster on a pair of store brand frozen whole grain waffles, the range owner calls me. He's been out to visit the range and has decided it's past time to get this project underway and wants me to fab up the brackets and get it done by this weekend. Great. He says, "Just use the tubes like you did on the IDPA stands, drill through holes. Easy, simple. Yeah it's oversized but it'll be easy to replace in the future should we need to and it'll work no matter what." I like this guy. He continues, "I'll call the managers and let 'em know what's going on, call the metal supply and get a price quote on the tube and one of us will call you back later..."

Nice. I set Dot1 to cleaning the shop after school. It's a mess after the boy's Eagle Project. I called and checked on tube availability and prices. Then I get a text message from Mr. Overcomplicated: Need you to carpool to my buddy's shop in Anton so we can work on brackets tomorrow 430-? You available?

Yup. I knew it wasn't complicated enough of a plan. I bet we don't use the tube either...
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Old 02-10-2015, 10:33 AM
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Update time, lol...

So while I was cooking breakfast and trying out LadyD's new elcheapo toaster on a pair of store brand frozen whole grain waffles, the range owner calls me. He's been out to visit the range and has decided it's past time to get this project underway and wants me to fab up the brackets and get it done by this weekend. Great. He says, "Just use the tubes like you did on the IDPA stands, drill through holes. Easy, simple. Yeah it's oversized but it'll be easy to replace in the future should we need to and it'll work no matter what." I like this guy. He continues, "I'll call the managers and let 'em know what's going on, call the metal supply and get a price quote on the tube and one of us will call you back later..."

Nice. I set Dot1 to cleaning the shop after school. It's a mess after the boy's Eagle Project. I called and checked on tube availability and prices. Then I get a text message from Mr. Overcomplicated: Need you to carpool to my buddy's shop in Anton so we can work on brackets tomorrow 430-? You available?

Yup. I knew it wasn't complicated enough of a plan. I bet we don't use the tube either...
So the owner is ok with a sunddial, you would be willing volunteer your time to build a Timex, but the manager wants a Rolex! Are you charging for your time over and above what a "Timex" would be?
Sounds like what I am doing to fix the local scout derby track. Since I am volunteering my time to make it better, I am only going to make it so good. If they want it perfect, then some $ will have to exchange, but there is room for tons of improvement, without having to go overboard.
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Old 02-11-2015, 10:38 AM
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The manager just likes to over-damn-think stuff. A LOT. We've been planning a variant of this project since October and it's never gotten a lot of steam until the phone call Monday morning. We have been collecting railroad crossties for a few weeks now. The two cripple fellas--me and manager #2--visit the one lumberyard that carries them every week and picks out the best 5-8 of the week's bunch. We can't handle more than that at a time. Yesterday's load got us up to 18 total I think.

Anyhow, the brackets are done. Good or bad, they are what they are and I didn't end up doing all the work by myself. I guess that's a good thing. I can neither be blamed for their design nor for their execution . All I did was drill the holes.

All told it only took us about 4 1/2 hours with four guys working on this. I didn't get a final picture of the brackets we made, but I will later in the week once they're installed. They're not real uniform and the edges could have used a brush across the grinder. But, they'll work. We used the 1x2 14ga tube and 2" angle. Cut the tube to 6", angle to 3" and put one piece of it on each side of the tube. They booger welded the snot outta them and then I drilled holes in each 'tab' on the side. I've got to build a jig to hold them in the proper place and alignment when we install them on the RR ties, but that's later today or tomorrow.

For all the bitching, I still gotta admit it was a lot of fun to actually work with other people instead of just in my little hole. It was a heck of a lot better using someone else's shop, particularly in that he had one thing mine lacks--floorspace . I'd forgotten how nice it was to be able to walk in a straight line between one area and another in a shop, lol.
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Dubby, your shop's not too small, you have too much stuff stored in it.
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Old 02-13-2015, 10:04 PM
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Lol, yeah I think that's the problem right there. I'm spending less time in there, and things seem to be piling up in my absence. I keep expecting to come home some evening and not be able to open the door anymore.

So far so good on the bracket installation though. It's been a VERY long week at the range but we have 4 of the 6 shooting lines redone with the new bracket system. We didn't have a whole lot of people out today which was really odd. The weather was beautiful. I'm hoping tomorrow and Sunday will be better. Our plans changed (again) and we've decided to rent a skidsteer or similar tractor with a front end loader and do some dirt work to go along with this project. I'm also hoping to level out the shipping container we use as an office.
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