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Old 12-20-2012, 10:32 AM
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Little Dan had a slow leak on a tire. Turns out its a small crack in the rim. Tire guys refused to remount it and wanted him to buy new rims
The kid is 16. Geez
Can it be repaired safely? Not by me though. Beyond my ability.
What do you think Monte?
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:56 AM
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Dan, scrap it.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:04 AM
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You can weld aluminum wheels, but I would get another wheel if it were me for safety reasons.
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Unless it was a very rare and expensive rim...

I would not mess with it....

from what I can see in your pics.. it looks very much like a stress crack
that formed on the edge of the HAZ of an old weld repair...
and yes it could be welded.. but would in all likelihood need dye checked to make sure you got all the cracks(if not X-Ray)....and then heat treat to make sure to get rid of stress concentrations or crystalization....
Then there is the matter of what alloy and method was used on the old weld repair...

would it really be worth it to you??
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:43 AM
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Alright.
Thanks for the input. I will scrap them. This is off a '92 Cherokee my son bought a month ago and its a real POS. I'm normally pretty car savvy but I blew it big time on this one. Going to cost me $1500 for a motor as well
Boy, am I mad at myself
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:48 AM
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That crack next to another is trying to tell someone something...
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Unless it was a very rare and expensive rim...

I would not mess with it....

from what I can see in your pics.. it looks very much like a stress crack
that formed on the edge of the HAZ of an old weld repair...
and yes it could be welded.. but would in all likelihood need dye checked to make sure you got all the cracks(if not X-Ray)....and then heat treat to make sure to get rid of stress concentrations or crystalization....
Then there is the matter of what alloy and method was used on the old weld repair...

would it really be worth it to you??
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Scrap it. Aint worth on a vehicle...
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Scrap it. Aint worth on a vehicle...
The rim is an aluminum alloy worth much more than aluminum. I sold 680 lbs of the stuff for $.75/lb. rim average weight is 18 lb.
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Bender just for general knowledge the Cherokee has the same bolt pattern as most Toyota 5 lugg trucks that should give you more options on finding a decent used set of rims " cheap " .


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Unless it was a very rare and expensive rim...

I would not mess with it....

from what I can see in your pics.. it looks very much like a stress crack
that formed on the edge of the HAZ of an old weld repair...
and yes it could be welded.. but would in all likelihood need dye checked to make sure you got all the cracks(if not X-Ray)....and then heat treat to make sure to get rid of stress concentrations or crystalization....
Then there is the matter of what alloy and method was used on the old weld repair...

would it really be worth it to you??


I 1+ the scrap it solution 100%, but as for it being a repair already, my guess is that there used to be a balancing wheel weight there and it caused for less oxidation.
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