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Old 10-21-2015, 07:58 PM
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Okay, Cutter was kind enough to FB me and we had a nice chat.. Thanks Buddy.. Hugs to you..

As to the blowers.. I prefer the 200 silent.. It puts out more air. Both in the regular 12" model and in the 14" model vs the Champion 400..

I have and use both.. Personally I am a clockwise turner which is the direction the buffalo turns..


I like it also because i'm right handed.. I know people who are left handed and they hate just about all hand crank blowers because it never gives their hammer arm a chance to rest..

So that model 200 is actually a newer version.. Over the years Buffalo kept finding ways to produce them a little cheaper.. the best models were the 14" that actually say Buffalo 200 silent 14" with the logo on the front.. They look super sexy as well.. I know it's kind of like a really sexy pair of pumps.. Shoes that is..


Anyhow, for some reason I haven't been receiving notice from SFT to my email which I used to... And yes, I do try to come by once a week but usually just to glance through and go..

I've had computer problems as well as crashing on my bike.. Computer all set now and my injuries are healing nicely..

You can't go wrong with the Champion 400.. Its a nicely made unit..

The Cannedy otto units are or were the top of the line..
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Old 10-21-2015, 08:25 PM
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if you look strictly from a machining stand point, the Buffalos, then champions then Kennedy-Otto's.. There were some earlier models not mentioned from other companies that were ok..

But these 3 players were the biggest.. The Cannedy ottos were the top of the line completely sealed gear case and could turn both CC and CW..

I have one but still prefer the Older Silent 200's..

Different strokes for different folks..

Duckman once i get the shop up and get all the work stations setup I'll have all 3 different blowers setup so you will be able to try them..
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Old 10-21-2015, 08:31 PM
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More photos of the Champion 400
That looks like the old model 400.. Has the fancy case.. Sweet..

The crown gear looks like new... They usually wear pretty badly on the brass gear.. If there is no flash from the brass it definitely is a keeper..

Be sure and use a top quality worm gear drive lube/oil.. I believe I use mobil 460 or 430.. It's the thicker one and it's great during the summer but to thick in winter..

The case on these are leakers you'll have to add oil every day its used but this keeps the oil clean and clear..
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Old 10-21-2015, 08:36 PM
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Well I'm not an expert but the Champion in MHO is better, crank can be rotated in either direction, Buffalo only works when the crank is turned CCW , does not look like a problem but CCW is awkward when blower is mounted on the left of the fire pit.

Duckman, not to offend but, The silent 200's are CW.. The model you are referring to is the smaller model I belive it was the 10" and under models that went CCW. Always disliked that..

I'm like you. over the top or CW cranker..
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Old 10-21-2015, 10:03 PM
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Thanks Cutter and Jennifer.

I did not choose the Buffalo because of the one direction of turn and because I am sure it has bushings as bearings instead of ball bearings. I think this because at each bearing area there is a "set" screw. There was more up & down and sideways movement in the fan shaft than I like. There was more thrust movement than I liked. I think the thrust is adjustable, but I did not know if it has enough adjustment.

The Champion looks brand new in the gear box. There is no brass dust anywhere. The brass gear almost turned me away, it has to be the weak link. There was no slack in either end of any shaft. With the fan and fan housing removed there was almost no gear noise and no bearing noise. The Buffalo 200 also passed this test.

I hated to spend the extra $100.00 dollars, but... Actually, I can get my money back from the seller, if I decide I don't want it at a later date.

Thanks to everyone for your replies.

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Old 10-22-2015, 03:38 AM
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