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Old 09-28-2020, 02:10 AM
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This afternoon I went and looked at a Kearney & Trecker mill. It is a model 2CH universal. Has the universal head and parking attachment, the low lead table attachment, and two horizontal arbor supports. I think I can bring it home for $4000
At $4K Save your money or get your self a Bridgeport mill.

Ok I'll say it. In less you need a K&T $2K would be the max MAX.
This member paid $600 for a K&T https://www.shopfloortalk.com/forums...ad.php?t=51425


Its been a few decades but the arbor supports had tapered brass/bronze bushings and if you wanted real roller bearings they were $800 each.
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Old 09-28-2020, 02:24 AM
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Is there much carbide tooling that can be used in a horizontal mill, I’ve not seen any?

The cutters are generally quite large so will be expensive to buy. If using HSS tools you will need to find an economic way to sharpen them as they can’t be considered as disposable.


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Not really any carbide tooling for horizontal use, seen a few with inserts but cost was 5x that of hss .
in less you want to use carbide end-mills and face-mills, takes a lot of work setting up parts on an angle-plate to use end-mills.

I have not kept up with cutters but at one time you could buy used horz cutters for $1-$2 a pound.
and a lot were sharp.
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Thinking more about the K&T mill for $4000. It still sounds high to me, but you do have to take in consideration Tim’s age. It will be working for him another 40-50 years. And if he gets enjoyment from working with this equipment, then it would be a good buy.

How much will a nice weeks vacation or trip cost and then you only have memories after the trip is over. Every time Tim goes out to make some chips, he will be going on a vacation, especially if that is not his daily job.

And investing in tools will pay dividends down the road. He will always be able to make a little side money building something for someone.




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Old 09-28-2020, 11:06 AM
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Walk away IMO.


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Walk away IMO.
Good advice!
What I would consider is this:
  • Do I have a need for this?
  • What future projects will I be using this for
  • Is this tool going to make me money or just a hobby item
  • How many widgets do I have to make with this to break even
  • Could the money I would spend on this be better served buying something something more useful to me
If you have so much money you don't know what to do with it and think it would just look cool in your garage, by all means, buy it! I have a tool box full of stuff I only used once.
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...And if he gets enjoyment from working with this equipment, then it would be a good buy.

How much will a nice weeks vacation or trip cost and then you only have memories after the trip is over. Every time Tim goes out to make some chips, he will be going on a vacation, especially if that is not his daily job.
Don't encourage him!

The last horz. mill I saw at auction went for around $600. A collet/turret lathe went for $800, I think. Both big ol' iron, 480v 3~. I didn't pay particular attention because they were NOTHING I would ever be interested in.

Another vote of "NO" here. You keep buying all this heavy equipment and pretty soon your building is going to start sinking all the way to China!

PS: this is the kind of equipment you either get for FREE moving it out of there or no more than $500 if the tooling can be used elsewhere...
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Need to rent a trailer to bring the mill home.
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I think you nailed it. No words necessary. Just about spit my teeth out when I saw the pic...
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