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Old 08-07-2013, 06:38 PM
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You'll like this install. With this install I won't have to spend $500 for HVAC tools.

Found this, Ideal 12,000 btu mini split, very cool install.

Video install.

Shop layout redraw for one air handler. Shop floor is 340 square feet, tan area. Will be using a fan at new door to blow cool / warm air into reloading room when I'm in there.

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Old 08-07-2013, 07:10 PM
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I've installed lots of mini-splits. You still need a vacuum pump and other HVAC tools, unless there is something special about that brand (but I'm not going to watch the entire video to find out.)

Why not a two-evaporator system with a common condenser? Why go through all that installation and have to use a fan in an open doorway? Yes, more money and work, but I just wanted to make sure you knew it was an option. It will also save energy by only heating/cooling the room you are using.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:22 PM
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Mac702,

Flexible 15' stainless steel line set is hard connected to air handler. It has a 36 pound vacuum on line set already. The R401a is in the condenser, nothing to vacuum.

Sorry, if you wont view the video, you must not comment on my thread, you don't know what your taking about.

The short line set works for me.

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Old 08-07-2013, 07:56 PM
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Vern as much as I like mini splits and I put a pile of them in how much is this rig going to cost . I have a portable Airconditioner in my shop and love it as I can move it to where I am working or simply leave it in one place and run the exhaust hose to the window .


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I am by the way currently sitting in my shop with the 16X8 overhead door open and its 85* outside and the portabe is 3 feet from the overhead door and blowing 59* air on me at the moment . I can almost reach out and touch the door frame on the overhead door from where I am sitting .
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Mac702,

Flexible 15' stainless steel line set is hard connected to air handler. It has a 36 pound vacuum on line set already. The R401a is in the condenser, nothing to vacuum.

Sorry, if you wont view the video, you must not comment on my thread, you don't know what your taking about.

The short line set works for me.

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Wow, so there was something special about that brand, just like I admitted there might be in my comment...

And I got it from you in five seconds of reading instead of however long that infomercial was. I win...
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Mac702,

Whats special about Blue & Gold Firearms Training?

Mac, is that type of install okay or not? You said you installed several mini splits. Looks like there is no work for a HVAC tech, that must be worth something.

Is there a better place I can put the air handler. I'd like to cool down the fire arms room.

Mac, I'm giving you 3 stars for your win. * * *
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rickairmedic,

I live in Arizona, my thermometer in the shade has been reading 110f degrees the last couple weeks. If my shop was only 85f, I'd love it.

The unit is $1k, with no shipping and no HVAC tech needed.

Rick, I have a neibor that won't walk across the street, and give me a quote, but he's living with his dad. I did get a quote from Home Depot for $7k for a 1 1/2 ton unit. HVAC techs won't talk to people that want mini splits.
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Vern I talk to them all the time and have put in alot of them over the years . Honestly for the money you are looking to spend on the mini split I would recomend taking a look at some portable units . I have one of these units .

http://www.sylvane.com/soleus-air-lx...=cse_shopzilla



I actually have several portable AC units I use for loaners for customers when I cant get them AC " today " and they will have to go a night without it .

With that said the Soleus Air unit I picked up this summer is a 14,000 BTU portable heat pump yep thats right it heats and cools and costs half of what your looking at spending on a mini split which means you could either spend half as much and have heat and AC in one unit and move it from one area or another when needed or you could actually get 2 of them for what you are looking at spending oon the one mini split and put one in each area and not have to worry about how your going to get the cool air from one room to another .

This is of course just food for thought from a guy thats been doing HVAC for 20+ years and sells mini splits as well as full sized systems every day . I have also suggested these units to customers who have rooms above garages as a way to keep those rooms cool in the summer with a low cost . You can get these things as cheap as $250.00 if you shop around and I have picked up several lightly used ones off of craigslist for quite good prices to use again as loaners .

Oh yeah remember your 110* in the shade is a " dry heat " mine is 85* at 60% or better humidity . I'lll trade your 110 for my 85 anyday .


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Mac702,

Whats special about Blue & Gold Firearms Training?

Mac, is that type of install okay or not? You said you installed several mini splits. Looks like there is no work for a HVAC tech, that must be worth something.

Is there a better place I can put the air handler. I'd like to cool down the fire arms room.

Mac, I'm giving you 3 stars for your win. * * *
In addition to a firearms training company, I also do electrical and HVAC work full-time. The firearms training company is exclusively for private clientele.

Based on this question, I will actually watch the infomercial tomorrow and give you an opinion; call it morbid curiosity. I'm actually curious how they must run the sealed lineset without making a hole in the wall big enough for the entire evaporator. And whatever it is must be part of the reason why they can't do multiple evaporators or putting one in a room several walls away.

I've installed Goodman, Fujitsu (factory-trained), Mitsubishi, and LG mini split systems. It is a very efficient system and HVAC techs that don't do them are really missing out on the future. I'm seriously considering replacing my rooftop package unit with a whole-house Fujitsu 4-ton mini-split system.
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