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Old 07-11-2022, 01:08 PM
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This is a good example of why not to use outlets with push in wire connections. Always use the side screws for proper contact with the wires. This was used for an air conditioner in our dining room. Another poor choice was to use 14 gauge wire. The neutral wire just fell out when removing the outlet.I always use 12 gauge.
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Old 07-11-2022, 02:12 PM
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First time using an air conditioner on this outlet?


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Old 07-11-2022, 02:34 PM
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Stab backs are bad. One of my Dad's buddies told me about those a long time ago, I remembered it well.

14 AWG 15 amp circuits.
12 AWG 20 amp circuits.
10 AWG 30 amp circuits.
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Old 07-11-2022, 03:20 PM
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Do not know if previous owners used an air condition there or not.
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:33 PM
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There are higher quality receptacles that use a pressure plate that the installer has to tighten VS the push and pray/ backstab, newer receptacles with the backstab option only accept 14 AWG wire, but if you live in a apartment or tract home they only use the cheapest materials.
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:53 PM
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There are higher quality receptacles that use a pressure plate that the installer has to tighten...
I like those, they are solid.
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I like those, they are solid.
Only ones better are Hubbell, or Leviton, hospital grade receptacles, but the better ones are $10-20 each, cheaper hospital grade receptacles are available but they don't hold up, in healthcare receptacles require yearly tension tests, in order to pass, they must have a minimum of 4 ounces of tension, the failure is always of the grounding slots, not of the neutral or hot slots, plus a polarity test & visual check, and documenting the test, a PITA.
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My new window AC unit is working great. I'm sure the local REA likes me even more now.
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Only ones better are Hubbell, or Leviton, hospital grade receptacles...
I have had good performance out of PnS products as well, they are as good as Hubbell.

And locally I get great service out of the PnS distributor, the Hubbell distributor are assholes.
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I believe that I saw somewhere that if you tighten down the side screws on back stabbed outlets it tightens against the back stabbed wire. I have a circuit that I just pulled out that that was working intermittently that I need to shut the breaker and see if this is true.
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