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Old 11-03-2006, 05:50 PM
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had a guy approach me today and ask if i would give him Tig lessons, never have seen him before i guess he saw some of my work in town, got asking arround and some of my customers pointed him my way. i don't know if i want to do it for sure yet or not, just wanted to get some other input as to what i should charge for such service. we will be using my machine my shop my consumables ect. so lessons should be conciderably more than i would normally charge for flat tig work i would think. he has taken the courses at the local tech school so he has the basics already, he just wants to hone his skills. i have an idea what i want to tell him for a price but don't know if it's out of line or not. :evil:

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Old 11-03-2006, 08:37 PM
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Hobbiest or future competition ? Just off the wall guess is going to depend on your feeling of the guy.My 1st shot would be shop rate and then add something for the teaching part.Because you are not going to be able to work on other projects for a few hours till he just gets to decent level.
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:46 PM
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Hobbiest or future competition ? Just off the wall guess is going to depend on your feeling of the guy.My 1st shot would be shop rate and then add something for the teaching part.Because you are not going to be able to work on other projects for a few hours till he just gets to decent level.
I agree, why not just charge shop rate, and pretend it is a job? Might be a PITA, unless you like teaching.
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Old 11-03-2006, 09:58 PM
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Too many variables missing in the picture from my perch, but I'm wondering if he's apprentice material....?
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Old 11-03-2006, 11:08 PM
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after thinking it all over, i think i will pass. don't have to have the money and i may just be training a future competetor. i plan to tell him i feel i am too busy to dedicate the time needed. even if i make $500 out of the deal it would prove to be much more costly if he starts to undercut me down the road. if i lived in a bigger city i wouldn't worry but in my small comunity there really isn't that much work to go arround. i hope that this dosen't sound selfish but it's the way i feel about it.
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Old 11-04-2006, 01:05 AM
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Eh, doesn't sound selfish to me. Actually, sounds very reasonable.

I've somewhat taught some welding stuff to friends, but in those cases, I know they won't ever be competitors.

I feel that if someone really wants to get into this business, they should go out and go through the schooling, then get a job doing it, or buy their own equipment (or all three). Not many places, big or small, will 'rent' out their shop and time for someone they don't know to come in and practice, etc.

And there is the whole liability thing to consider too. What if the guy is an idiot and hurts himself, or you for that matter? What if he breaks your equipment? Too much risk invovled, if you ask me.
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Old 11-04-2006, 11:30 AM
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This is just my take on this subject. I’ve taught 4 or 5 guys how to pass the state structural welding test. Now I knew everyone of them very well. I’ve even taught a few guys how to drive pile, trust me that’s a lot harder to do! Far as welding, it was in my shop / dad’s barn, my welding machine and tools, of course I / we stole the rod and steel off the job, but that’s another story.
I never once looked at it as training the competitions. I was taught at the very beginning of my career, to always give back to the trade. I was lucky, I never seen a man no matter what trade he was in not to teach explain why, and how he did something, to me. Now I’ve heard some horror stories, but never happened to me. I looked at this as improving the trade. To this day, in my situation, and the kid had what I thought was worth my while would teach a kid free of charge. But as you all know I’m one of the nicest people you’ll ever meet!
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Old 11-04-2006, 11:36 PM
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and i may just be training a future competetor.
I agree with 98% of what you said, it's the above that makes up the other 2%. But, it's your decision and I'd say you have the right to make it for sound consideration.

So, how's it feel to have someone come looking for the old guy with the know how? Please know that I'm kidding, I have no idea how old your are. lol

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of course I / we stole the rod and steel off the job, but that’s another story.
I'd call that a merit raise Pile. lol

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I never once looked at it as training the competitions. I was taught at the very beginning of my career, to always give back to the trade. I was lucky, I never seen a man no matter what trade he was in not to teach explain why, and how he did something, to me. Now I’ve heard some horror stories, but never happened to me. I looked at this as improving the trade. To this day, in my situation, and the kid had what I thought was worth my while would teach a kid free of charge. But as you all know I’m one of the nicest people you’ll ever meet!
Well said Pile, but.....
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But as you all know I’m one of the nicest people you’ll ever meet!
......are we still talking about the same dude?

Now to get a little serious again. I have had the oppurtunity to add to anothers wisdom, if only slightly and did so willingly. I always figured it helped me out in the long run. It always seemed that someone asking for a more precise foundation of knowledge in a particular arena, left me feeling like I had done something worthwhile.

I had to pay for some of my initial abilities, the rest came from those that did the showing and explaining, just as Pile said.

Of course, keeping in mind that every situation might not be of the same reasoning. That is a decision that only you can make and with your particular situation.
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if it was one of my pals or even someone i knew i would teach them in a heartbeat, but this guy popped up out of no where and i don't know his intentions, if i get to know him better the story might change. who knows he might be a cool guy and become a real friend but until i know for sure i'll keep him at arms length.
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Old 11-05-2006, 09:54 AM
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Yeah, this is a tough one! When I call someone a friend, I’ll do just about anything for them . I’m very cautious of strangers in my shop. One reason I have all my small tools in cabinets. It may be something as innocent as someone you know, tells someone else what you have, next thing you don’t have it anymore. Now a days I’m a little less cautious because I’m here 24 / 7, and the shop is only about 70-feet from the house, but I still lock it every night!
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