Farm Shop tool improvement

[moe1942]

Cary, I saw your post at Hobart showing how you mounted a hose reel. Good idea. I have had a similar reel sitting on my shop floor for a couple of years. Looks like it is time to get it mounted.

If you haven't done so you should show the pics here..

[Pile Buck]

Originally Posted by Tom Zachman

That's right PB. Modern farm tractors use lasar equipment to help control wheel slippage over the soil. Lug wear and fuel economy are the goals.

So a couple pounds of air either way can make a difference? So who calculates the temperature change form morning to noon to late evening? You know them big azz tractors have a lot of steel in them, so I’m sure they move with temperature change!


Oh and does a big breakfast make a difference also?

[Sberry]

I dont have lasars but a lot of cars and light trucks. This farm is very small by some standards but its quite specialized in direction The biggest tractor is 100 hp.

[Sberry]

I had the TV on and was playing with the bracket. I might be tempted to fabricate something else if I was to do that again, it was mainly just to see if I could find some shortcut but building something custom wouldnt be anymore difficult. I rigged it so it could only rotate so far in one direction, kind of used the bracket as a stop. That one was a reel for the paint booth. For a lot of guys the WalMart version would work well too and is a lot simpler to mount.

[Pile Buck]

I’m just curious about this laser thing. I know they use them with dirt moving equipment. I’ll have to ask a guy I grew up with. He’s been doing big dirt work in the central valley of California all his life. They may have 50 double engine scrapers running on one project. I’ll ask if they have to watch their speed. You know those big tires are filled with calcium chloride, I would think if they get all the water to splashing around it could cause the whole she bang to be off a few thousands of an inch!

[dirtdigger]

Originally Posted by Pile Buck

I’m just curious about this laser thing. I know they use them with dirt moving equipment. I’ll have to ask a guy I grew up with. He’s been doing big dirt work in the central valley of California all his life. They may have 50 double engine scrapers running on one project. I’ll ask if they have to watch their speed. You know those big tires are filled with calcium chloride, I would think if they get all the water to splashing around it could cause the whole she bang to be off a few thousands of an inch!

Are trying to stir the pot or just be funny?

I think we are talking about 2 different things here. the "laser" or radar on tractors "looks" at the ground to detect the actual speed, instead of using the RPM/speedometer. Usually to make sure spaying is done accurately. Most spay rigs use GPS now anyways.

The lasers used in earthmoving are for elevation, not speed. Also, alot of eathmoving companies are outfitting their equipment with RTK GPS, a high accuracy GPS system, that is as accurate as lasers. (1/4" elevation accuracy)

Some guys have them mounted on drainage machines where topography and precise elevation is a must. The systems are down to $65,000, but I still haven't taken the plunge yet. (They started out at $85,000)

[Pile Buck]

Originally Posted by dirtdigger

Are trying to stir the pot or just be funny?

Who me? :evil:

Well you helped a lot with your explanation, it is two separate tools.


I think it will be sometime before you don’t see a survey crew / grade checkers on dirt spreads!

[Cedarcreek]

Originally Posted by Pile Buck

So a couple pounds of air either way can make a difference? So who calculates the temperature change form morning to noon to late evening? You know them big azz tractors have a lot of steel in them, so I’m sure they move with temperature change!

Most tractor tires are checked at the shop on an average day and just run. Some of the larger 4 wheel drives with large duals or tripples run with tire pressure as low as 7 or 8 psi. At those pressures a couple of pounds is a huge difference. I dont have anything that big my largest is 130hp. I run 16-19 psi in the rear tires.

[Harvuskong]

Originally Posted by Pile Buck

I’m just curious about this laser thing. I know they use them with dirt moving equipment. I’ll have to ask a guy I grew up with. He’s been doing big dirt work in the central valley of California all his life. They may have 50 double engine scrapers running on one project. I’ll ask if they have to watch their speed. You know those big tires are filled with calcium chloride, I would think if they get all the water to splashing around it could cause the whole she bang to be off a few thousands of an inch!

Calcium Chloride is used in most farm tractors. There are some that do not use the stuff for whatever reason.

As for those double engine scrapers, it has been some time since I worked on a road conturction project, but I do not remember scrapers, loaders or other types of equipment with calcium chloride in the tires. And I have seen the flats fixed on the job site. But it is possible that things have changed in the last 25 plus years.

[Sberry]

I use loaded tires. My stuff is all simple low tech. I only grow 20 acres of berries and 10 of sweet corn but its complicated and somewhat intensive. I do a lot of retail all fresh pick, no production or commodity. We run all the production from start to finish, marketing, even produced our own tv commercial. I have 3 tractors, all 30 yrs old, my stuff is simple but ancient. We dont run most things the hours some do but we customize a lot of stuff, hundreds of improved brackets or tools, make changes, tune tools. The money I save on new trucks and tractors, etc pays for the rest of it. We will rebuild something cover to cover if it makes sense and we often fix it for a long service life over simple repairs or if we can spot stuff that is going to come up and bite us in the future.