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Old 03-25-2013, 04:25 PM
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Bob, I have had some more cast iron repair come into the shop, one of them is mine (intake manifold), the other is an exhaust manifold, and a couple more that are cast brackets. The exhaust manifold is not cooked to death, and is a crack on the outside of one of the tubes, looks pretty easy, the brackets have broken off mounting ears.

I have been wanting to try the Royal 44-30 that you talk about, and so I ordered a 2# spool today. I am considering just putting it in my spool gun and using it from there, but does it work okay going through a MIG gun liner? Also, what is your technique using it, multiple heavy tacks and let cool in between, or just run a bead? Any insight into using it would be appreciated, as at $80 for a 2# spool, I hate to have a steep learning curve.
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:32 PM
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On the exhaust manifold i did my GEO Metro and i ground with a die grinder the crack just to make it shine. Just a little preheat and weld away. Mine was vertical so i spotted it in going uphill but i did one for my neighbor where it was laying flat and i just ran a bead and it was fine. I like 75/25 better than pure argon which leaves a taller bead. The wire runs just like SS. It runs just fine thru my mig liner as the wire is stiff like SS. The intake i would just die grind the crack and try to get a flat weld if you have to prop it up or something but it does do uphill good just spotting it in. Hope this helps. Post some pics...
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Here are a few more pics. If the mounting ears are small just pitch them and fill the area with wire. I used some old mig gun tips where the hole would be and weld over it then grind and drill to size. Other areas where there are broken out bolt holes i used some copper slugs punched on an ironworker and put in the hole and weld around it then drill out the copper. That wire works like a dream. I do work for a local pump rebuilding company and most of it is cosmetic but these parts are high dollar some 20 grand and i have had zero problems...Bob
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:40 PM
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Few more...Bob
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Nice job.. What are the weld beads like to grind? Do you notice any extra hardness added to the filler?
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Thanks for the advice. Also, any idea on its machine-ability?
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Thanks for the advice. Also, any idea on its machine-ability?
Its machinable...Bob
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Nice job.. What are the weld beads like to grind? Do you notice any extra hardness added to the filler?
It grinds like SS. No extra hardness that i can tell...Bob
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Walker,

Did you have to order the roll directly from Crown Alloys, or through some other welders supply place..........thanks.
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