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Old 02-09-2012, 10:41 PM
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I am going to buy a Mig welder this weekend or next week.

I have some choices and just cannot make up my mind. All of the used machines would require me to travel between 2 and 7 hours to pick them up depending on where they are located.

Two of the sellers have agreed to take my tactical shotgun as partial trade.

Please offer some guidance.

Here is what is available:

- Used Miller 185 (needs new liner) $500

- Used Hobart Beta Mig 200 (good working condition) $300

- Used Century 200 Mig (perfect condition) $500

- Used Firepower FP160 (used once, perfect w/cart) $600

- Used Millermatic 35 (good working cond) $500

- New Hobart 180 $700

- New Eastwood 175 (w/spoolgun accessory) $579 shipped

- New Clarke EN190 $400 shipped


There are also several 3phase machines cheap but I don't have 3ph power. Are they worth buying and doing something to them to make them work single phase?

Also, I have my Dialarc 250. What is the realistic cost to getting a Mig setup attached to it? Is it worth it?
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:56 PM
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There is also this thing:

I cannot tell what it is

http://ocala.craigslist.org/tls/2782701523.html
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:59 PM
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And this:

http://mobile.craigslist.org/for/2797222201.html


And here is one of the three phase machines:
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/tls/2840462743.html
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Old 02-10-2012, 01:07 AM
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Also, I have my Dialarc 250. What is the realistic cost to getting a Mig setup attached to it? Is it worth it?
As best as I can tell, yes you can, but is it worth it?? Depends on what your usage is going to be because the wire feeders are high dollar items when new.

I suggest checking on the Miller website for the suggested retail prices for one.

And the Lincoln website as well.
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Well, the ad says that it does not have a wire feeder included.

Without a wire feeder, it will not do MIG.
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As best as I can tell, yes you can, but is it worth it?? Depends on what your usage is going to be because the wire feeders are high dollar items when new.

I suggest checking on the Miller website for the suggested retail prices for one.

And the Lincoln website as well.

Light duty really. Up to 1/4" steel mostly. Fab work, bumpers etc.

I think I have read that making the DialArc work for Mig is not ideal. Something to do with CC vs. CV. I also have no idea what a wire feeder is or what is necessary to have in order to use it.

I don't want a cobbled together Mig setup. I just want a good solid machine that will have a good duty cycle and good power.

I just hate that I have a big ol' power supply sitting here and cannot put it to more use than just stick and some scratch tig.

I also hate the thought of paying nearly a grand for a Mig. I actually can't pay that, not all at once anyway. And if I don't need to pay that then I don't plan too.
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http://ocala.craigslist.org/tls/2782701523.html

Well, neither can I. Needs a better picture and the model and serial number posted.
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I think I have read that making the DialArc work for Mig is not ideal. Something to do with CC vs. CV. I also have no idea what a wire feeder is or what is necessary to have in order to use it.

I don't want a cobbled together Mig setup. I just want a good solid machine that will have a good duty cycle and good power.

I just hate that I have a big ol' power supply sitting here and cannot put it to more use than just stick and some scratch tig.

I also hate the thought of paying nearly a grand for a Mig. I actually can't pay that, not all at once anyway. And if I don't need to pay that then I don't plan too.
Wire feeder info on the Miller page.

http://www.millerwelds.com/products/wire_feeders/
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If you are going to pay $500, you may as well spend $700 or so and get a NEW MillerMatic 140 (120V), MM180 (230V), or a little bit more and get the MM211 which is both 120V and 230V. Knock $100 off for a new Hobart or Lincoln.
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Light duty really. Up to 1/4" steel mostly. Fab work, bumpers etc.
Don't depend on a cheap 120v mig to weld "up to 1/4 inch" reliably enough for bumper or any other automotive fabrication other than sheet metal body patches. I have a seldom used HH 135 which I regard to be useful only for 1/8" and less non-structural use - metal art, small residential gates, etc.
You could tack a bumper together with it but it wouldn't be welded.
You could bevel both sides of all joints and make multiple passes & work your butt off but I still doubt you'd be pleased at the result.

There may be some more sophisticated units that can do it but not for $500 or under & you're unlikely to find a good used one for cheap either.
I think the 175-180 class is the minimum for your proposed uses.
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