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Old 07-12-2018, 07:11 AM
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I've got a mower salvage and a couple of scooter stores close at hand, so the search begins.

I rejected a hydraulic set up, although simple and bullet proof, as too heavy and complicated. when you start with 6 or 8 HP. no parasitic loss is acceptable.

The john boat I got to play in could manage around 10-12 knots, with 2 fat boys aboard, plus the required rods, beer and sunscreen. (if we take bait, the fish inturupt the beer drinkin and lie tellin') My trolling motor only 3 or 4, quantum leap in out distancing the bugs...

In Thailand, I saw a small block Chevy, longshaft, on a 25 or 6 foot, many passenger boat, zipping around. Now that dog could run...

I think I remember seeing a small planetary gearbox on a chinklet / kiddie sized 4 wheeler. not sure if it was an inline or right angle drive. (obviously, for my purposes, an inline would be preferred) An inline planetary would be the bomb, I just gotta find one small and cheap.

Anywho, the hunt goes on. Imagineers step to the front.

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Old 07-12-2018, 10:48 AM
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I wonder if a gas golf cart engine would be the ticket.
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Old 07-12-2018, 02:20 PM
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The last interesting thing I saw for a canoe was a 4 stroke Husky weedeater with a prop on the end, no reverse though.

Steering was a bit loopy, but the kids fished with that thing the whole weekend I was on that lake. lol

I always thought that an electric drive off a golf cart would be the thing to have but a bank of batteries would seem to be a bit heavy for 10'.

Now, the gas driven carts with the instant start and run with the pedal seems to be something I'd look at for sure.
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Old 07-12-2018, 02:52 PM
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When motorbike engines are put in light cars they sometimes use a small electric motor for reversing.

Not quite sure how this could be applied on your boat but thought I’d throw it out there in case anyone else can.

Happy hunting.

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Old 07-12-2018, 03:35 PM
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I was giving my google foo a workout and found a mud skipper surface piercing drive with reverse. However, it is an outboard style lower unit, chain driven arrangement with a sliding double dog clutch. NOT a longtail. Pretty popular with the duck hunter and marsh hopping set. doesn't seem to be particularly efficient in shallow water but slings mud and muck very well.

Most of what I could find were 16 to 25 HP, way more than I want or need. Beginning to look like I may be breaking new ground here. The mudskipper did give me an idea for a backsplash blocker design to keep from drowning the longtail operator when he grabs a handful too much throttle in reverse.

I'm not ready to believe that I'm the first guy to want a reverse on a longtail. I suppose I could get by with a pushpole for reverse, but I'm an old gearjammer, I want to yank a stick and feel something happen. Might even be a good place for an overdrive...

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Old 07-12-2018, 04:55 PM
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No personal experience.
But you cannot be the only one to want this.

How do the do it in Thailand?

SE Asia seems to be an innovators paradise.
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:06 AM
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Chief, let me suggest you look at some of the kayak forums.

While I can't say with any certainty that you will find what you seek, they are always coming up with different ways to power kayaks, it may well be a good place to spin off a few minuets. ...
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:02 PM
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Interesting deal you have going here. I’m a sucker for brawn and reliability I can’t think of a good reliable reverse other than a trolling motor, a separate long drive on the front of the boat or an easily changeable prop that like so many today “goes the other way”.
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:24 PM
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I went for a jet boat ride today,and looking at the reverse bucket made me think of this thread,
RED? how about a bucket for reverse?
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Old 07-13-2018, 11:33 PM
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Ummm. Had a thought, and googled inboard marine gearbox.

Figured they must have them for things like the little engines in sailboats etc.

A little more reading and such brought me to find this. http://gatortraxboats.com/options/gtr-37-xd/

So it looks like there are some possibilities.


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