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Old 11-01-2018, 03:14 PM
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Default DIY project Metal Lathe Stand for 3 in 1

So I had to get some material for a job and one of my favorite things to do when at the steel yard is to take a lookC around the scrap and junk hauled in for salvage while I am waiting to load.

I haven't gotten around to really thinking about how or what to mount the new 3 in 1 to just been busy but while looking at scrap junk I came across some nice clean band saw cut random drop material of some 16" I-Beam at first I walked past it hobbling along and then the light bulb came on and thought that I-Beam would be the easiest and stoutest way to fab up a stand for the 3 in 1 so walked back measured out three pieces then had it brought up to scale for weight not realizing how much it would weigh
345 lbs. so no doubt it will be stout enough for a stand..

also found some threaded rod and nuts for the rod... I prolly could not of bought the 8 pieces of threaded rod at the fastener co. for what I paid
for the whole scrap pickings…. It all totaled like 60 bucks an some change.

I will give more detail of the build plans in another post later when I get ready to build it in a few days. but the idea here is to use the top I-Beam piece as the catch pan for the chips.
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Old 11-02-2018, 06:30 AM
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It looks like what you have there is a W beam. The W refers to "Wide Flange".

I never thought to ask my supplier about buying his scrap pieces or short drops but I will next time I visit.
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Old 11-02-2018, 06:48 AM
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You sure those aren't H beams, flange is too narrow to be a W. I don't see a taper, so it isn't an S.
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Old 11-02-2018, 06:52 AM
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Aw Hell, they're S's. Narrow thin flanges. My bad.
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:16 AM
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As usual, I'm totally confused

I never work with these, so it's always a mess.

I think of an S beam as tapered from the web out to the tip of the flange. My supplier uses Junior, and S, as interchangeable terms so he says. Same same.

I can't think of a W as anything but an actual wide flange beam, where the flanges actually look like an H when turned on their sides, or something approximating an H. So, I'm thinking that they're the same too. Interchangeable terminology.

But, being as the flanges are parallel, Metalwolf's beams might be W's in some sense of the word. They're not tapered.

According to these folks http://www.structural-drafting-net-e...teel-beam.html his beams might fall into the M category.

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Old 11-02-2018, 09:22 AM
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well I'll get some better pic's when I get the real camera battery charged up
for yawl...

considering the project purposed repurposing of this material pretty much any of the alphabet will work.....

although I didn't look at it all that well it could be "w" with out going out there and looking at it but will later.

the general idea here is to have a stout stand/Bench to mount the new 3in1 on to so don't laugh my drawing skills are lacking on detail being I got my flu shot and everything about today feels like puddle poo...

but maybe you can get the general idea of how I plan on putting it together...

so going to cut and fit the top piece in to sort of a tray by folding out the top edges and cutting them down to 2"....Then fit the legs to the top piece
using a 12" drop piece off the top piece it will be split in half to make triangular pieces and weld to bottom of legs for the gusseted support feet then plate the bottom of the legs.....
any ways that is the idea
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Default tray ?

So, you are going to spread the flanges of a beam (of some kind) just to make a tray?
Isn't this going to belong in blacksmithing?
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So, you are going to spread the flanges of a beam (of some kind) just to make a tray?
Isn't this going to belong in blacksmithing?
No it's for a stand for a 3 in 1 mill, lathe, drill...
not going to spread the sides going to cut them down and off to form a catch tray but may just cut them down a little at it is 16" wide in the flange
and top flange is 6" wide.
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the bolts I thought id use to make some very large c clamps or pin press out of haven't decided on those just yet.

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