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I like to patronize the local businesses when possible. But, I’m not getting screwed either. The wife tells me yesterday “my heaters not working the blower doesn’t come on” (2009 Xterra) No big deal blown fuse. Right away though I’m thinking “why did the fuse pop” The answer came today the blower won’t run except on the 2 highest settings. Alrighty then we have a bad blower motor resistor. Did a search of the local parts stores online $57.99 @ NAPA & O-Reilly,s. Amazon $22.99 sorry guys I will wait for it to arrive Monday. You know Amazon is still making money at $22.99 WTF
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I like to patronize the local businesses when possible. But, I’m not getting screwed either. The wife tells me yesterday “my heaters not working the blower doesn’t come on” (2009 Xterra) No big deal blown fuse. Right away though I’m thinking “why did the fuse pop” The answer came today the blower won’t run except on the 2 highest settings. Alrighty then we have a bad blower motor resistor. Did a search of the local parts stores online $57.99 @ NAPA & O-Reilly,s. Amazon $22.99 sorry guys I will wait for it to arrive Monday. You know Amazon is still making money at $22.99 WTF
I know exactly what ya mean I needed a power steering pump for a super duty
All the general chain stores for a new not rebuilt PSP was 349 to 419 plus 85.00 to 125.00 core charge...
I ended up getting it from rock auto... a Motorcraft part with express shipping to my door and actually just arrived 8 pm DHL express. And I ordered it yesterday evening around 5 pm. and was 267 and some change with shipping and no core charge. shipping was 58 bucks though but needed it fast.

I typically will order all my parts online over the chain stores... but buy all my little stuff that seems to add up to a bunch as well from the local chain stores

I also needed a pully holding tool for changing the fan clutch just got tired of having to figure out ways to hold the pullies... So I went down to the Autozone and rented one from them... they had the OEM brand tool and told them to give me a new one because I don't plan on returning it...

The tool is a rent or buy and is 80.00 plus tax... really not a bad idea as you can get your money back full price which was a good thing because I had not intended on returning it and figured I'll need it again but came home used it
then took a break and was looking online and thought ill look and see what they get for this thing online and typed it in several places came up and well I'll be, the Mfg sells the dam thing for 23.00 and 12 .00 shipping to my door and only took 2 days to get here a week before I'd need it again...

So it does pay to shop around and shop around online
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When I changed the leaking water pump on my Duramax last spring, I had been looking on line for a tool to remove the fan clutch, found several but didn't care for the pricing and delivery charges.
I measured the nut on the clutch, went to the local farm hardware store (Peavey Mart, a western Canadian chain) and bought a no-name, 1 7/8" combination wrench for cheap.
Even if I never use it for anything else, it is in my toolbox and cost me next to nothing to purchase compared to purpose made fan clutch tools, plus I didn't have to wait for something to be shipped from who knows where.
As for a pulley holding tool, I made one from bits and pieces of resources I had on hand, so the only outlay for that was some time and a bit of welding gas and wire.
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Many careers ago, I had a 6 bay car/class 8 truck shop. This was in the 80s, I was open 7 days a week, 3 shifts. Mostly fleet work, it was a busy place, about 95% of my parts and supplies came from a local Napa.

That went on for 10 years,... at that time, Napa procured and sold quality, for a price, " value ".

I have a good friend, who owns and runs his own Indy shop, for 20 years now. He got into the repair biz about the year I got out, and used the same Napa dealer up to about 2 years ago.

Here is what we learned.

Napa no longer sells quality, it's selling the EXACT same part that Auto Clown/Oriellys/Advance/CarQuest/pick your brand. Napa's current game is to extract as much profit out of today's market as is humanly possible before it becomes common knowledge that they are finished selling good parts, and Id expect them to be out of business in the near future. The sell junk, at a premium price, with no added value, save for delivery for commercial accounts. I actually know of a one store owner that sold his franchise to a consolidator about 2 years ago, because it was time to retire, and he could not stomach the crap he was peddling.. this was learned first hand.

Basically its the same off shore parts, sold in a Napa box, and is priced 1/2 to 4 times higher ( depending if you want the longer warranty ).

Weve verified this game, by ordering the same shit from 3 different vendors on the same day.

This is not hard and fast for all the parts, like brakes, but most of it, all now comes from the same vendors in China, only the boxes and prices change.

Long and short of it, buy price and warranty, the option of quality has more or less been moved off of the menu.

The friend I mentioned, I have to share this, he mostly stepped away from Napa, because of all the failed new parts he installed, that he would have to do 2 or 3 times. Napa would pay him warranty time, but it was half of his shop rate, and of course his customers where not pleased at all. It became sort of an " epidemic " for him. He's had better luck with O'riellys, than Napa, for part failures. He no longer does anything with Napa. At one time he was a Napa Auto Care Center, LOL !

If you need quality, look to ebay for new old stock. Even the AC Delco/Motorcraft, supply the same china junk on the fast moving " aftermarket " parts like starters and alternators. We have proven this. I have another buddy, hes been at a Delco/Motorcraft wholesaler for 30 years on the counter, and he knows that this is true, and is a great resource for what is true shit and what is acceptable anymore. Its really sad.

As an example, my neighbor went to putting a wheel bearing assembly on his dodge 4x4, I rolled up while he was installing, we started talking, he spent $410 dollars at Napa in town for the bearing, because he wanted a " quality " bearing, didnt want to have to change it out again during his ownership. I pointed out, he received a " white box " no name bearing, except it was marked " Made in China ". The bearing had no markings as well. I pulled out my phone and showed him, if he could wait till Tuesday, he could have saved $300 and likely had the exact same chinese bearing delivered. He was not pleased with me....

Id avoid Napa, if you can...

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As far as rebuilt/remanned stuff, North America can’t compete against China due to the labour rates. However, as their quality seems to suffer, as it gets worse, maybe we’ll see a swing back to what we used to do. Rebuild our own, wheel cylinders, alternators, starters and such. Wait and see.

I know the last few years I was in Onterrible I would take most of my alternators and starters and have them tested and rebuilt, at least I knew what I had. Once I had a bearing blow in an alternator, turned out to be a bad/cheap bearing, the rebuilder came good for the whole thing and tossed the batch of bearings he still had, and sourced better ones again.


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2 sundays ago one of my motorcoach customers called from the local walmart.
He was on his way to my shop,and stopped for fuel.
He blew a power steering hose while at the walmart fuel island.
43 foot pusher.
I had the same model coach in one of my bays,so i got a quick measurement and grabbed some tools and brooms and cardboard (creeper) and off to Oreilys
for the hose and 200lbs of oil dry.
i got a 50 foot hydraulic hose so i could have extra,$585 for the hose with a $70 discount.
so $655 or so with no discount.
WE ran it out of the engine bay and tied it to the awning arms and and ran it back into the steering box.
Then we got it home and ran the hose where it needed to be.
The next day we did another coach before it needed it,my local guy that i use daily sold me the same hose for $207.
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I do try to buy local for smaller stuff, as it takes too much fuel to drive 70 miles one way. Most of the time I can wait a few days, sometimes not. Today stopped in at our local pharmacy and got a tube of anti-inflammatory cream for the missus. $14. 68. Checked at Walmart online and it sells for $8.14. Guess we will buy a stock of it next trip to the big city.
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Many careers ago, I had a 6 bay car/class 8 truck shop. This was in the 80s, I was open 7 days a week, 3 shifts. Mostly fleet work, it was a busy place, about 95% of my parts and supplies came from a local Napa.

That went on for 10 years,... at that time, Napa procured and sold quality, for a price, " value ".

I have a good friend, who owns and runs his own Indy shop, for 20 years now. He got into the repair biz about the year I got out, and used the same Napa dealer up to about 2 years ago.

Here is what we learned.

Napa no longer sells quality, it's selling the EXACT same part that Auto Clown/Oriellys/Advance/CarQuest/pick your brand. Napa's current game is to extract as much profit out of today's market as is humanly possible before it becomes common knowledge that they are finished selling good parts, and Id expect them to be out of business in the near future. The sell junk, at a premium price, with no added value, save for delivery for commercial accounts. I actually know of a one store owner that sold his franchise to a consolidator about 2 years ago, because it was time to retire, and he could not stomach the crap he was peddling.. this was learned first hand.

Basically its the same off shore parts, sold in a Napa box, and is priced 1/2 to 4 times higher ( depending if you want the longer warranty ).

Weve verified this game, by ordering the same shit from 3 different vendors on the same day.

This is not hard and fast for all the parts, like brakes, but most of it, all now comes from the same vendors in China, only the boxes and prices change.

Long and short of it, buy price and warranty, the option of quality has more or less been moved off of the menu.

The friend I mentioned, I have to share this, he mostly stepped away from Napa, because of all the failed new parts he installed, that he would have to do 2 or 3 times. Napa would pay him warranty time, but it was half of his shop rate, and of course his customers where not pleased at all. It became sort of an " epidemic " for him. He's had better luck with O'riellys, than Napa, for part failures. He no longer does anything with Napa. At one time he was a Napa Auto Care Center, LOL !

If you need quality, look to ebay for new old stock. Even the AC Delco/Motorcraft, supply the same china junk on the fast moving " aftermarket " parts like starters and alternators. We have proven this. I have another buddy, hes been at a Delco/Motorcraft wholesaler for 30 years on the counter, and he knows that this is true, and is a great resource for what is true shit and what is acceptable anymore. Its really sad.

As an example, my neighbor went to putting a wheel bearing assembly on his dodge 4x4, I rolled up while he was installing, we started talking, he spent $410 dollars at Napa in town for the bearing, because he wanted a " quality " bearing, didnt want to have to change it out again during his ownership. I pointed out, he received a " white box " no name bearing, except it was marked " Made in China ". The bearing had no markings as well. I pulled out my phone and showed him, if he could wait till Tuesday, he could have saved $300 and likely had the exact same chinese bearing delivered. He was not pleased with me....

Id avoid Napa, if you can...

Dont shoot the messenger...
Yep, I avoid the "No auto parts available stores" 80% of the dealerships sell shit parts now too! and when behind the scenes the dealerships buy from napa and blow smoke up peoples ass as if their getting a dealer item only part NOT!
And to piss me off, even more, is I've seen our local AZ and Oreally's delivering parts while I was there at the local dealership...
And then they put those parts on customers vehicles as if it were a dealership part C' mon if that ain't a lube job Then I don't know what one is...

But when available... I will buy Canadian manufactured parts in a heartbeat!
most will argue this and some will disagree totally. but, the quality and standard of Canadian manufactured parts have been outstanding compared too even USA mfg parts...
Now I don't know this to be true in all Canadian Mfg. automotive parts but when it comes to Motorcraft and Dodge it holds very true...
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2 sundays ago one of my motorcoach customers called from the local walmart.
He was on his way to my shop,and stopped for fuel.
He blew a power steering hose while at the walmart fuel island.
43 foot pusher.
I had the same model coach in one of my bays,so i got a quick measurement and grabbed some tools and brooms and cardboard (creeper) and off to Oreilys
for the hose and 200lbs of oil dry.
i got a 50 foot hydraulic hose so i could have extra,$585 for the hose with a $70 discount.
so $655 or so with no discount.
We ran it out of the engine bay and tied it to the awning arms and and ran it back into the steering box.
Then we got it home and ran the hose where it needed to be.
The next day we did another coach before it needed it,my local guy that i use daily sold me the same hose for $207.
beware the chain stores.
That's pretty much the standard warning for most business/places around the surrounding area here that sell hydraulic parts and supplies... and now we need to clump the parts houses in the same category of greedy business who sell way overpriced Crap parts...
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I do try to buy local for smaller stuff, as it takes too much fuel to drive 70 miles one way. Most of the time I can wait a few days, sometimes not. Today stopped in at our local pharmacy and got a tube of anti-inflammatory cream for the missus. $14. 68. Checked at Walmart online and it sells for $8.14. Guess we will buy a stock of it next trip to the big city.
Chris double check that price it might be an online only
I've run into that with wally world on a quite a few things while looking for fun stuff for my little grandson...

I look at stuff online for local stores before I run to town but find that a lot of it is online only purchase. although you have further to drive and my drive is only half that it still sucks to get there and find it's online only...

I think if they have it on their website... it should be available instore and not just online order BS! But, I guess they must drive traffic to the store in a somewhat misleading way they call the practical business of today's times...
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