Grob VS DoAll

[the spyder]

Well, I'm still figuring out how I want to unload these beasts, but I started cleaning both of them up. I need to test the Grob before I sell it, but I don't have 3phase setup in the new shop yet.

Quick notes:
I somehow missed that this was a former Boeing piece, most likely bought new by them. It has the 70's and 97' era logo on the asset tags. I know this was purchased about 10 years ago by the fellow I bought it from and he had it sitting the last of those 4 years. Before that, I have no idea outside of a asset tag that said Sentinel Group LLC, but I can't find anything about them. It looks like when it was @ Boeing it was well taken care of. There was a sticker "Maintained by Kennametal Tooling Professionals", so I'm guessing it saw somewhat regular service.

The good:
I'm stoked because the entire thing is in awesome shape despite what I initially thought. I did a quick cleanup and almost all the controls work (except the table lock/tilt- soaking that over night in PB.) The gear box shifts fine. The belts look great. I'm going to drain the transmission tomorrow and check it out. It even came with a new (rusted) blade.

The bad:
Shifter handle missing on gear box. Easy fix.
460v Blade welder. I only have 208/220v 3ph available.
Missing DoALL badge/name plate- I really want to find one of these.
Broken glass on speed gauge.
Missing work light.
Missing grinder wheel and cover.
The tires are pretty torn up- but still decent.
Broken oiler on CVT shaft- my fault.
Filler plate needs replaced + missing knob.


The even worse:
Retrofitted motor, Baldor SuperE 2hp 3ph. This isn't terrible- but the pulley is installed backwards and complicates the next issue.
Missing air pump. I have no idea what to do here, finding a replacement I'm sure will take some time. I do have a older low CFM Speedair I'm tempted to put a smaller pulley on and run for now.

[the spyder]

More inspection pictures:

I'm not sure what they were cutting last, but it was some combo of brass and aluminum. It was nasty- there was a solid 1/16" this strange metal shavings filled gun built up on the tires, guides, and splattered all over the casing. It brushed/scrapped off- but still odd.

[the spyder]

Cleaning:

[the spyder]

Getting somewhere:

Again, I'm amazed what just brushed off. The purple simple green did a great job too! Very low odor, but was very effective.

[rmack898]

What ever you do, don't try and lift the saw with forks under the table. There's a lot of saw with broken trunions because of some moron on a forklift.

A small 3 hp horizontal shaft engine would make a good replacement air pump as it's almost the same size as the original air pump.

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[Lu47Dan]

You could get a step up transformer to go from 240V to 480V for the blade welder.
Dan.

[digr]

Looks like the same saw Good info.

[USMCPOP]

I have a Do-All granite surface plate. It does absolutely nothing.

[rmack898]

Took me a while to find it but here is the thread I started on my saw that has pictures of the original air pump.

http://shopfloortalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17654

[Roundrocktom]

Hmm, what did you do with the Grob?

I wouldn't mind a Grob with the belt pulley system (early), later went to a hydraulic transmission that folks trash talk (so good deals to be found on a simple belt system...)

Tom