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Old 04-04-2018, 03:09 PM
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Default Question for all Johnson/Dake/Kysor Johnson horizontal bandsaw owners

I should know this by now, but it's been a few years and I need to know the bearing size for the "upper guide" bearing on the guide arms. I am fairly certain it's either a 6000zz or 6200zz. The difference I think is in the OD. One is something like 26mm and the other is 30mm IIRC.
Anyhow, I just want to be sure before ordering. Again, this is the single "upper guide" bearing. There is one on each guide arm, which backs the blade spine up.
Thanks for any help guys.
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Old 04-04-2018, 08:00 PM
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I have no idea since my old saw came without blade guides and I paid no attention to which bearings the factory used on the originals when I built mine.
Sorry. Maybe someone else will wake up & answer.
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Old 04-04-2018, 09:49 PM
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Is there no number on the existing bearing?
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Old 04-05-2018, 12:06 AM
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Default Top bearing OEM

The top bearings are Fafnir 200KDD ID=10mm, OD=30mm, width=9mm, SINGLE ROW, CONRAD, 2 SHIELDS

the side bearings are Fafnir 5201ZZ ID=12mm, OD=32mm, width=15.88 or 5/8" DOUBLE ROW, 2 SHIELDS
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Old 04-05-2018, 12:19 AM
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You have those numbers . If the bearing work ok any bearing place should be able to cross reference .
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Old 04-05-2018, 07:31 AM
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Hey vmil3,
Ok, I believe you are correct, so long as you are giving numbers for the J saw which uses 3/4" wide blades, and not the "JH" saw, which uses 1" wide blades?
In answer to the question above, NO, the cheap bearings that were on my saw did not have numbers on them, otherwise I would have not had to start this thread at all.
I appreciate the help guys. This is the fourth J saw I've restored, but it's been YEARS, and I had lost my paper with all my bearing info on it.
Already have the 5201KDD's for the side guide bearings. Just needed the upper guide bearing number and dimensions. Thanks so much again.
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Old 04-05-2018, 11:13 AM
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Paul, See post #9 here: https://www.shopfloortalk.com/forums...ad.php?t=21021

The guide bearing are 5201kdd. Measure. id 12mmX OD 32mmX15.8 (16mm)
... The top bearings are just a plain 6000ZZ. measure: ID 10mmX26mmX8mm

Edit: ZZ top bearings?
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Old 04-05-2018, 11:47 AM
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Default For the J with 3/4" wide blade

Yes, those brg # are for a J model with a 3/4" blade, we had the same one at the paper mill, that we bought new, as well I picked up the same saw from a local college up here, for $200.00 Can dollars. I just checked my manual which covers both machines, the brg's are the same

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Old 04-05-2018, 12:33 PM
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The manual only shows one part # for the top bearing. A few places that sell parts show different top bearing #s for the J and the JH.
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Old 04-06-2018, 02:03 PM
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Ok guys,
So here we see my dilemma. There is a 6000zz (26mm OD) and a 6200zz (30mm OD). I know for fact that the J and JH saws use differing upper guide bearings.
Dake does not care to share the sizes with you, but the reason for this is because the J saw uses a 3/4" blade, and the JH saw uses a 1" blade. Therefore I ASSUME that the smaller 3/4" blade J saw calls for the LARGER 30mm OD bearing (6200zz) and the JH saw using the larger 1" blade, calls for a 6000zz bearing with 26mm OD, but I do not know for sure if this is correct or not? Trying to clear this up.
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