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Old 01-22-2019, 10:16 PM
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Default Super Alloy weld rod

I have comes across a 11 lb. unopened box of SMAW 1/8" Super Alloy weld rod which says for all steels. 128,000 psi tensile strength. I am pretty sure it is a Muggy weld product but there is no name on the label. It may be their first production of weld rod. It does not have the current numbering they use such as 1, 3, 5, 77, etc. 11 lbs. would be a steal at $35.

Anyone here have any knowledge of their early weld rod types and uses?
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fire up that stick welder and give it a go..let us know how it turns out for you..I'd try to bake the rods first..might be worth the wait...then again you can always scrape the outer flux off and use the rod as TIG filler rod too
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"Super Dooper Rod" I always called them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWzROoxS2b4

The salesmen always convince the maint departments (usually ones
with people who can't weld very good) that this $30 a pound "Sooper Dooper Rod" will work for anything that comes along.

No need to think about maybe what kind of material it is (the broken part).
No need to preheat or even clean the part of oil & grease.

Heck, get it within 1" of the location, and it takes over and does the
weld on it's own....

I recall seeing maint men building simple angle iron frames with the stuff....
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Snake oil...
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:26 AM
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Snake oil...
Yabutt !

Ya got's to love it when the slag peels off, and reveals the rainbow
weld.....

I suspect they have allot of nickel and other expensive additives in them.

I bought a bunch NOS (very cheaply), and keep them in a dry place, used them only
a couple of times.
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Old 01-23-2019, 02:14 PM
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Snake oil...
Far from it. While it is sometimes easy for a salesperson to con somebody into using a really expensive rod where it's not necessary using specialty rods in the right application can mean the difference between getting a job done right or not doing it at all. I've burnt up a fair few pounds of specialty stuff over the past 40 years ago and I can tell you that in the right place it works very well.

Common brands for us have been Arctec, UTP and Eutectic but there are many more. Some work better than others and prep and process can have a big impact on the final results but "good" rods have saved our bacon more than once. It falls upon the user to do his homework and make sure the rod selected is most appropriate for the job in question. If you're burning up 30 dollar a pound rods while welding mild steel then you're the idiot as much as anybody else....
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Yep, usually some form of modified stainless. My all time favorite was always Eutectic 680, you could weld truck spring leaves with it and almost never have a failure. Great uncle welded a broken plowshare he tried to pull up a monster rock with, held for years. Welded cold, very high strength, no cracking, very ductile.

Had so much nickel in it you could not cut it with a torch, and too tough for any saw. Grinder or cutoff wheel was the only way.

Of course you would have to mortgage your firstborn nowadays for Eutectic anything, lol.
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