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Old 03-19-2018, 12:19 PM
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Has anyone purchased the OXA tool post from CDCO Machinery? If so, how do you like it?

In general, how do you like dealing with CDCO Machinery? I know that some of you have bought stuff from them.

I'm considering one for my new 7 x 14 mini lathe.

If I can find my camera and it still works, you just may see some pictures of it. That would be a first for me, after all these years.


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Old 03-19-2018, 03:02 PM
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Dave, I haven't bought anything from CDCO lately but they were very prompt and reliable when I did.
However, back when I was outfitting the little Atlas/Craftsman, the one you named Charlie, I was told that the AXO was really too large. This may not be the case with the 714? I don't know.

I wound up with the A2Z toolpost which really has been just right for this size toy lathe.
Unfortunately, I just learned via searching that they shut down a year or two ago.

Now that being said , I get emails from Bangood & others all the time offering really good pricing on their QC toolpost.
They also offer many options on more toolholders, boring bar sets, package deals, etc. Only "problem" I've had from them is slower delivery.
As you can see, the prices are very hard to beat.

Or of course, there is always LittleMachineShop. Higher prices but faster shipping of the same thing from California instead of China.

One thing about these mini toolposts is the t-nut is not really a t-nut. It's more of a "t-washer" so I would up making my own nut.
Shouldn't be a problem for you.
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:15 PM
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I have CDCO's AXA toolpost on my 9" South Bend. After a couple years I'm still happy with it. My only complaint is that the setscrews that come with it are total garbage, but you can buy a bag of them from McMaster-Carr and fix that flaw.

I also bought a TCMT turning tool set there. The carbide inserts they came with are actually quite good in my opinion. I have spent more on various other ones and was a lot less happy with the others.
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Old 03-19-2018, 10:18 PM
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Import set screws

I dunno how many end mills I ruined, along with the bore on the holder, because of lousy set screws. I finally got wise, and started replacing the screws automatically. But then you're facing threads that are less than hardened so it seems. Upshot of the whole deal, I'm slowly replacing all my R-8 holders with Bison brand, and the problem has disappeared (along with my money).

But there's always a downside I guess. The stinkin import end mills vary in tolerance...........there's some that are oversize shank, and won't fit my tight tolerance Buffalo holders So, then I'm forced to use a collet, which makes me nervous when plunge cutting, and making long slots for adjustable belt/chain drives. Always afraid the collet will slip while plunging.
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Old 03-19-2018, 10:27 PM
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Speaking of toolposts.

Putting the cart before the horse, I bought a set of Dorian stuff. Holders, and tool post. NOS....made back when they were an almost direct copy of the Aloris (I seem to recall there was some legal battle over this so I heard). Set me back more than I paid for the stinkin' lathe. But my experience with off brand stuff on the mill made me quite concerned with buying less than what's considered the best. Costs less in the long run I've found.

Biggest thing I've noticed is less than good steel. It looks good, but it's not up to par when you really start using it hard. And I don't abuse stuff, just use it pretty regular.

I love the YouTube videos where the doods are machining aluminum. Very rarely do you see guys doing steel. I guess it just doesn't look as impressive as a 3' deep cut in soft material
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Old 03-19-2018, 10:51 PM
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Not too sure which models of the QCTP's I have on the Logan 9 or the SB13, but do know that they are doing what one would expect them to do. I know the one on the Logan is an import, not sure about the one on the 13 as it came with it.


I have lantern posts etc for both and have used them on both lathes for some odd reason, but my preference is the QC's. Life is so much easier with them.


As far as the Logan and it's import, she's a worker for gun pieces when needed. Steady.
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But there's always a downside I guess. The stinkin import end mills vary in tolerance...........there's some that are oversize shank, and won't fit my tight tolerance Buffalo holders So, then I'm forced to use a collet, which makes me nervous when plunge cutting, and making long slots for adjustable belt/chain drives. Always afraid the collet will slip while plunging.

I've never had an end mill move in a collet, I use R8, ER32 and the din 6388 series collets, never had a movement. I threw 2 sets of end mill holders into the scrap pile about a year ago. I still have one set buried in a box in the basement, hopefully never to be used.

I use a lot of carbide end mills, and yet to see a Weldon style carbide end mill. A clean oil free collet, a clean oil free end mill and the right torque on the drawbar and never had a problem. And I do push them hard.
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:23 AM
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I've never had an end mill move in a collet, I use R8, ER32 and the din 6388 series collets, never had a movement. I threw 2 sets of end mill holders into the scrap pile about a year ago. I still have one set buried in a box in the basement, hopefully never to be used.

I use a lot of carbide end mills, and yet to see a Weldon style carbide end mill. A clean oil free collet, a clean oil free end mill and the right torque on the drawbar and never had a problem. And I do push them hard.
Same results here. But do check the collet for chips. A small chip in a couple of slots and your grip goes to hell.

I use the CXA QC post. My insert holders are manufactured at various Eastern China sites. I have found that in a couple of cases I had to cut .100 off the bottom so it would drop down enough to be on center.
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Gerry,

are you in Canada or Mexico??


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Old 03-20-2018, 09:55 AM
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I’ve modified a couple hundred or more of the AXA blocks to hold 5/8” and 3/4” tools, now there are oversized holders available (250-101XL, 250-101XXL, etc) from All Industrial and others, but those blocks are taller, not sure if they would work on my lathe, without bottom modification. I’ll shortly be ordering one, to find out.

It would be a lot easier if the manufacturers, made the tools I wanted in either 1/2” or 5/8” shanks, instead of starting with 3/4” shanks. I understand, they are marketing for industrial customers not the home shop market, but it would be nice.
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