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Old 12-31-2006, 10:44 AM
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I just got a new 80gallon compressor for the shop. I would like to mount the thing in the barn/old shop which is about 50' away from the new shop.

What are the pro's and cons of this. The easiest way to get the air line from the shop to the barn would be to bury it.

Is this doable what should i do about getting the water out of the lines, my lowest point is going to be underground and the what should i use for underground?

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Old 12-31-2006, 10:56 AM
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Is there any chance of building a enclosure outside of the shop, it will still be out of the shop but a lot easier to plumb plus close for maintenance.
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Old 12-31-2006, 10:59 AM
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Not really, With the position of thenew shop thier is no real good place to add a side building for the compressor unfortunatly.

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Old 12-31-2006, 11:53 AM
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I have just completed what you are contemplating. I buried 3/4" sch40 pvc about 18". It works very well so far, just make sure you use cleaner and pvc glue as per mfg. recommenations, dont ask why I said this. I would also suggest that you run the compressor with a magnetic starter that is wired for control from your shop. I am going to remodel my set up and use a franzinator at the output of the compressor and another one at the input to the shop. Best of luck.

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Old 12-31-2006, 02:07 PM
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I have a buried cross over to one of my shops. I buried a 2" vacum pipe and ran 3/4 id 300 psi air hose through it for possible moisture issues.

I can just tie a rope to it and pull it out if it has a problem. so far (10 +years ) no problems.
At the end of the run I have a 100 lb propane bottle as a reservoir. It is mounted upside down . it makes running air tools just like right at the compressor.
with each building that I plumb into my air system I add an end of line tank for this reason. Terrry
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Old 12-31-2006, 09:02 PM
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We actually came up with the idea to mount an other 60gallon compressor tank i got off a job in the main shop in the rafters as a supplemental supply tank.

What is a frazinator? should i build one of those wall coils of pipe in the barn or in the main shop or in both?

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Old 12-31-2006, 09:41 PM
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A Franzinator is what Franz calls it normal people call it a water separator.
to work properly a water seporator must be the first thing after the pump.
The idea is to remove the moisture before the storage tank.
The principle mechanisms in order of importance are :
1 reduce the air temperature so the vapor coalecess into water droplets.
2 slow the air down to remove energy from the water droplets. This is done by increasing the cross section of the pipe
3 Turn the air stream up so gravity can pull the water droplets down into the collector.
It is up to you to drain the collector regulairlyto keep the water out of the tank.
Sizing is related to the size of the compressor.
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Old 12-31-2006, 10:38 PM
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Remote mounting the compressor shouldn't present any problems. I have one 60 gallon unit in the machine room, another in the welding room, and another at the far end of the woodshop (70' away from the first two). All three are plumbed into the same black pipe main line.

The first unit to kick on is the one farthest from the machine room, the second one is in the welding room. The third pump rarely runs unless the Henry vertical grinder or the Top Cat horizontal grinder are in use - they want 45 CFM
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Hello all,

I'm a newbie here. Just registered tonight, although I have been reading for about 3 or 4 months here. Lots of good info for a "hobby" welder. Thank you all alot.
Allow me to give some info back. I am a plumber by trade, and I have seen what can happen when a pvc pipe full of compressed air explodes in a shop. Think of all the things you have seen fly across your shop or fall over on something, and how many of them could break a pvc pipe. Especially in the cold, pvc becomes very brittle. that is a lot of very hard plastic shrapnel!
Do yourself a favor and use either copper or Pex pipe. either one will work. Pex being a little harder to install if you can't get the tools to expand it with. Neither one of these will explode. They might pop, but they don't explode. LOL.
Hope that helps some of you out. I know alot of people have used pvc pipe for many years and never had a problem, and that is great. But it won't be any consolation if you ever lose an eye, or worse, or someone you love is injured.
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Old 01-22-2007, 11:21 PM
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Hope that helps some of you out. I know alot of people have used pvc pipe for many years and never had a problem, and that is great. But it won't be any consolation if you ever lose an eye, or worse, or someone you love is injured.
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Welcome to the forum and good opening salvo!!I have wondered about pvc air line and it is good to have a pro opinion. Thanks!
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