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Old 05-08-2019, 10:12 PM
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You impact to the angle? I always used a long handled breaker bar and came around slow and easy. I guess I it's probably from doing that to get an accurate torque with a torque wrench. Now that I think about it- that's not necessary.


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Old 05-08-2019, 11:10 PM
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You impact to the angle? I always used a long handled breaker bar and came around slow and easy. I guess I it's probably from doing that to get an accurate torque with a torque wrench. Now that I think about it- that's not necessary.


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Son, come lay under a truck with me in late August whilst the oil dripith upon our foreheads and try to find a purchase for your feet to land upon while you take the main caps north of 600ft pounds 12 times with a six foot long twenty pound ratchet while the creeper has a river of sweat that would rival any water park slide and explain to me how your 180 degrees is better than my 180 degrees with an impact and paint marks that line up when I’m done. I will listen intently.

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Old 05-08-2019, 11:22 PM
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You impact to the angle? I always used a long handled breaker bar and came around slow and easy. I guess I it's probably from doing that to get an accurate torque with a torque wrench. Now that I think about it- that's not necessary.


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So all the BS aside, hell yes I impact to angle. I mark the surface and I mark the bolt head on a corner so when the angle is done I have a straight line. Mark the socket, line the whole mess up and ugga dugga until it’s done. There is no need to go slow for the angle portion, that was already taken care of at the torque stage with a properly prepared fastener and torque sequence.
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Old 05-08-2019, 11:49 PM
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Oh my how that sounds familiar. I agree that the angle part can be done however you damn well choose. While the impact isn't my preferred method but in the case of the ISX main caps you bet I would and have gone that way.
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Son, come lay under a truck with me in late August whilst the oil dripith upon our foreheads and try to find a purchase for your feet to land upon while you take the main caps north of 600ft pounds 12 times with a six foot long twenty pound ratchet while the creeper has a river of sweat that would rival any water park slide and explain to me how your 180 degrees is better than my 180 degrees with an impact and paint marks that line up when I’m done. I will listen intently.

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Old 05-09-2019, 01:22 AM
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...Son, come lay under a truck with me in late August whilst the oil dripith upon our foreheads and try to find a purchase for your feet to land upon while you take the main caps north of 600ft pounds 12 times with a six foot long twenty pound ratchet while the creeper has a river of sweat that would rival any water park slide and explain to me how your 180 degrees is better than my 180 degrees with an impact and paint marks that line up when I’m done. I will listen intently...
Ya gotta love in-frame rebuilds...
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Old 05-09-2019, 12:20 PM
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I always used to joke about the torque/angle method saying they didn’t want to buy a real torque wrench. I’m a fan now after 30 or so ISX overhauls. Torque by hand to a light value then break out the impact for the final 90 or 180 degrees.
A lot of CAT mains are done like that. Torque to 90lb and and then go one more flat.

I used to just use a long breaker bar and would fight them, until I worked with this old Mexican guy that would rattle wrench them.

I asked him about that, as it seemed wrong to me. He said he had never heard of a failure doing it that way so from then on it was 3/4 drive impact for me....one heck of a lot easier..
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Old 05-09-2019, 12:33 PM
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Ya gotta love in-frame rebuilds...
Yeah....

Until you wait for a month until the parts get there and there is now 10 foot of fill all the way around the busted rig and climbing back up to your truck sucks and sliding back down sucks more and all your cardboard underneath is oil soaked and full of biting spiders and bugs and you're out of rags and more cardboard and everytime a scraper goes blowing past you get another layer of dust down your already oil soaked neck and---

I'm gonna stop there-- I may need to go lay down....lolol... ...
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Old 05-10-2019, 04:20 PM
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I have needed on occasion a larger torque wrench but always just get buy well I have one that goes to 250 ft*lbs. Well this showed up today...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I had to look at my Amazon wish list because I have had a 3/4 drive torque wrench on the list for a while. I will have to look at the feedback on your pick. Mine by CDI is $$$ in comparison. We aren't talking about an every day tool anymore which makes a big diff on actual quality/necessity
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:11 PM
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I had to look at my Amazon wish list because I have had a 3/4 drive torque wrench on the list for a while. I will have to look at the feedback on your pick. Mine by CDI is $$$ in comparison. We aren't talking about an every day tool anymore which makes a big diff on actual quality/necessity
This is in between once a month and once a year usage.
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Old 05-11-2019, 05:55 AM
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I'll prolly order it being it is convenient and don't need to drag out air hose for quick and small jobs... Thank Ron. for the link... I got no problem buying china made tools where there is some quality control more so than other china made stuff... they have a nice low budget one at HF but by thetime you buy the impact and the battery is separate and then the charger is separate buying the Neiko is far cheaper and maybe as good or better than the HF one...
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