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Old 02-27-2011, 08:52 AM
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Default Refinishing an anvil

So I picked up an Arm and Hammer 80lb anvil the other day for a steal, and I am wondering about refinishing it.
I am thinking about sandblasting the whole thing, then using a grinder with a fine flap disc and hitting the top surface to take it back to smooth metal. Is that how someone would go about refinishing one? I will probably just hit it with some flat black paint on the sides after I sandblast it.
Any help from the experts around here would be real helpful.
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:00 AM
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Give it a good wire brushing and get to hammering. Go easy with any wheels on the face, it may not be too thick to begin with.
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:21 AM
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I can pretty well see the line between the wrought iron body and the top steel plate welded on. It looks to be pretty thick still. I wouldn't be going grazy with it, just taking enough to make it look good.
I know I know a lot say looks don't matter, but I want it to look good.
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:23 AM
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I have found nothing that works better than this product. Had never heard of it until it was mentioned on/in "Cutters Vise" thread, but the stuff works well and lasts longer than anything else I've found.

For an anvil, it's just the ticket. While some anvils do get left outside, a simple water proof cover of some sort would keep the finish rust free for years.

There are several tools that get used that just don't work with paint, like some of my chains etc, but the Permatex treatment does a right fine job. I highly recommend you taking a little time to flap disk or possibly use the 3m scotchbright wheels on a high speed tool of some sort and knock off the major rust, wire bruse once and apply. It will continue to cure in use.



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You might have noticed a difference in the finish from the last time I showed the old vise; I did not want it to rust again (imagine that!) but I did not want to gob paint on it either (can you imagine??) so last summer, Terry Lingle suggested I hunt up some Permatex Rust Treatment. I may have mentioned before that it took me a while to track that down from the Permatex site, through a couple of other sites, finally to a local business called Motion Industries - which did not stock it, but they referred me to auto parts stores & the kid at AutoZone near my house sent me to NAPA & glory be! they carry it.

This is not paint but it works somewhat like phosphoric acid is supposed to work - when you can find it.
I wanted a dark grey or blackish finish & I think I got it. It will need to cure for at least 6 months & get the new wore off before I really get comfortable with it, I think but this is close to what I was after:
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:01 AM
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I'm not in the habit of posting porn of any kind anywhere, nor is it my habit of searching for or saving such pictures to my desktop, nor do I find it proper to do this in any fashion what so ever.

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Old 02-27-2011, 12:53 PM
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LW, that happened to me. I got an e-mail that had a funny story so I forwarded it on to my friends for them to get a laugh.

Next thing one of them sent me an e-mail back saying that she did not appreciate it. I don't know now it worked but she did not get what I sent, boy did I have to do some apologizing.
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Old 02-27-2011, 01:26 PM
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I hear that loud and clear Charley.

I've since updated this particular subject in the thread I posted in the computer room, with an update and hopeful fix on my end.

Duplicator, could you share a pic of your new found anvil?

We love anvils here.

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A picture would be nice. I have refinished about 15 anvils over the years. Other than leveling the top I personally dont like anymore done to one. It kinda ruins the character of the piece to blast it and paint it in my opinion.

If the top is thick you can grind it or mill it flat. It always been easier to me to mill it flat since I had access to a big cincinatti mill. Ive done a couple on a bridgeport.

You can build up the face with welding rod or you can weld a 4140 plate to the top after its milled flat. Ive done both and both worked well. Make sure to preheat and postheat the anvil during welding. I used a coal forge to do that.
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It kinda ruins the character of the piece to blast it and paint it in my opinion.
Indeed. A few years ago I had to do something to a well in the backyard of a semi-rural rent property located on a small half-acreage.
From the well house it was easy to see the workshop area behind the adjacent home where there was a big old anvil that some dumbass had painted red, white & blue in a manner that resembled part of the Texas flag.

It make me mad every time I looked at it.

The Permatex rust treatment would be fine. It has the upside of continually darkening with time if you apply enough coats. One coat will not completely convert the rust. 2 is better, 3 usually does the job.
These days the old vise is a rich almost-black.
It looks perfectly natural.
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It make me mad every time I looked at it.
Like rattle can blue pink Flamingo's?

Personally, when it comes to an obviously worn anvil face, if it's to be in my shop, it stays that way. No sense in dressing a chunk of iron that is meant to be beat on, even if there is yellow steel between the hammer and the face. There's always enough flat surface to meet any needs.

The old anvil that came from Grampa's shop, was originally his great Grampa's. Touching the dings and divots and passing my hand along that slightly swayed face makes it's worth just that more exciting. It still rings loud enough to piss off the city go to country lawyer down the road at 2 in the morning.
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