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Old 02-08-2019, 03:16 PM
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Default Trailblazer 302 Diesel

Looking at the above mentioned unit, looks to be just the welder, no cables etc.

It has about 2500 hours on it, I believe it’s a 3 cylinder Kubota diesel.

What to watch out for, what to test/check/try out, and what do folks think it’s worth?


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Old 02-08-2019, 03:52 PM
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Looking at the above mentioned unit, looks to be just the welder, no cables etc.

It has about 2500 hours on it, I believe it’s a 3 cylinder Kubota diesel.

What to watch out for, what to test/check/try out, and what do folks think it’s worth?


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I have that unit, yes, the Kubota engine is an excellent engine.

I paid about 8000 USD new. 2500 hours on that engine is not much but
also it is not new. I would say $3000 - 3500 is a fair price. If it has be
clearly well maintained and not abuse, maybe as high as $4000, treated
poorly deduct as needed. Now I am sure the new price on that unit has
jumped since I bought mine so you might have to adjust up.

IMO, if it is a cream puff with 2500 hours on a Kubota, 1/2 of new might
be as high as I would go. Also Miller will honor warrantees on resold
equipment as long as you have the original receipt; so get it if there is still
warrantee left on it.

I have not had any issues with mine!
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Old 02-08-2019, 04:50 PM
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If it was 8 grand new, they would want about 8500 beat to crap here. Or maybe 7900 if it didnt run.
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Old 02-08-2019, 04:57 PM
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Factoring in the dollar difference, I was thinking about 25% more than Shade’s prices here in Canada. Good to know.

I recall seeing different folks here talk about Trailblazer’s being nice units. I’m also a fan of a diesel version, both for longevity, and I feel it’s better than gas for extended down times. I think I should go check this thing out.


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Old 02-08-2019, 05:41 PM
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Factoring in the dollar difference, I was thinking about 25% more than Shade’s prices here in Canada. Good to know.
And that could be right, for your market, being in the Rust Belt and near
Shit-cago. You can get used equipment pretty cheap. And I a cheap
bastard as well.

The TB is a 2 man machine, you have one guy welding and another
grinding, cutting etc. The aux power on the TB's is a separate set of
windings from the welding generator. So you have true sine wave
230/115V power up to 50 amp surge and 40 amp continuous power.

The welding generator is a 4 pole 3 phase generator so you get a really
smooth arc from it. Also it is a CC and CV power source, as well as
AC or DC. I mostly Stick and MIG weld off mine but I have the basics to
TIG as well less the HF unit.

Do you know what he is asking for it?
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Old 02-08-2019, 05:46 PM
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Parts listing and cross reference, I use Wix where I can get them.
Attached Files
File Type: pdf TB 302 Parts.pdf (179.0 KB, 13 views)
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Old 02-08-2019, 06:56 PM
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Asking $4k canadian.

It’s in a cabinet on a service truck, so been largely out of the weather.

Not sure how I would set it up, skid mount it, trailer or what. Will have to deal with that if/when I get one.


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Old 02-08-2019, 10:00 PM
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Just had a customer come in with a dead 500 amp drive welder on his truck. he will be back Sunday to drop it off as he has to detach it from his service truck first.
I will slide it into my shop start a fire and trouble shoot it in a warm dry place.

Tomorrow I go to pull the deep well pump and replace it I know the motor is running but no load I hope that it vis a blown spline coupler and not no water in the well.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:12 PM
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Customer has a Bobcat 250d (Kubota)welds great but occasionally overheats. Also it is about the most annoying sounding engine I have ever heard. Earplugs are a must when welding within 75 feet of it.

Test drive it and make sure you can deal with the sound.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:12 PM
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As slow as Alberta's oil patch is, you should be able to get engine drive welders fairly reasonably.

Lots of guys have been out of work for a long time.
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