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Old 07-12-2019, 03:16 PM
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Every kid should have a backup career and I would suggest an industry standard welder, that is unless you can get trusted reviews on the specific item.
just the Miller name alone on a resume can make the difference.

I don't weld enough to give any reviews
the biggest issue I had with non professional welders is not all will burn all rods mainly 6010 rods high OCV rods.

I picked up a HF 120volt 80 amp inverter that I like over my older transformer 120Vwelder but would only recommend burning 6013 rods.

Also picked up a discontinued HF 220volt 145/165 has issues burning 6011 rods below 120 amps but above 120 you can bury the rod,
I have not tried the TIG, it did come with a torch.
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Old 07-17-2019, 03:50 PM
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Here are pics of the Vulcan ProTIG 200 I mentioned above. It is NOT a current offering. There may be one on clearance in your local store, I don't know. It is probably transformer-based as it has some weight to it. Reminds me of a Miller Econotig and is about the same size.

Next time I go into HF I may get the manager and offer $400 for it as it "obsolete" now... Or maybe that is too much? What do you think?
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Old 07-18-2019, 11:45 AM
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Here are pics of the Vulcan ProTIG 200 I mentioned above. It is NOT a current offering. There may be one on clearance in your local store, I don't know. It is probably transformer-based as it has some weight to it. Reminds me of a Miller Econotig and is about the same size.

Next time I go into HF I may get the manager and offer $400 for it as it "obsolete" now... Or maybe that is too much? What do you think?


Let him throw out the first price..You might be surprised...
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:47 PM
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Let him throw out the first price..You might be surprised...
Regarding the ProTIG 200 that is beckoning me, I talked to a lady that has been at this HF for a number of years. Brought her to the clearance nook WAY in the back of the store. Explained the logic behind why it was priced double what it should be. Very helpful--I think she "likes" me! She went and talked to the manager. I then went and stated my case to him.

$512 (plus 6.5% tax) was the best he could do. That is the total after all successive 20% discounts every 2 weeks. Apparently "cost" was $525. This is a "company" HF guy. He has previously told me all the wonderful trips he's been on to conventions courtesy of HF. Decent guy, but by the book...

He didn't want corporate "yelling at him" and couldn't do any better until the next "parking lot" sale in about a month. I suggested we drag the welder out to the parking lot and he sell it to me for a more realistic price--he got a kick out this but still no sale...

My "case" was thus: no pedal ($90 in stock or an open box $71), no regulator ($70 in stock but I have a previously purchased "open box" for $20 {spare}), no torch consumable "kit" ($50? not available separately but I have plenty), no instructions NOR any available online manuals not to mention NO listing on the HF website (ie: "obsolete" ). $300 was my price considering an additional $200 in potential expenses to get it welding. More like $100 for me since I had most what I needed.

He had me give my number to the nice lady I spoke to originally--maybe he is trying to set us up? Perhaps he'll have a change of heart? Or perhaps she'll call me on a personal level?

Complicating things and not-answerable was how would the "1-year free trial" apply to a discontinued item. Another point I brought forth to him trying to get him to loosen the purse strings...

I WILL say that an AC/DC tig with features like this one is a steal even at $600 (after pedal). They have NOTHING AC/DC TIG in their catalog at the moment...
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Old 07-20-2019, 10:53 AM
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You are on the right track...but do you really want a transformer machine....
The MM211 I just bought makes my MM175 look like a stone ax...
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Old 07-21-2019, 03:01 AM
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You are on the right track...but do you really want a transformer machine...
If the price is right and it works, then yes, I'll take it. But according to the info sheet there are inverters inside...

If I was in immediate need, there is one on WalMart website...

Eastwood seems to have a similar-ish unit. Maybe Vulcan infringed on copywrites of Eastwood?

The lady texted me back tonight to tell me she is "working on the price" with an assistant manager so there is that. $333.33 would make me happy!

PS: if you search it at HF website you get the last pic...
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:32 AM
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My son has a fleet of migs tigs plasma cutters all high end. Me I braze with
gas, I weld with a stick. So this kid has boondocked my beautiful Gas powered
AC DC Miller my AO Smith stick. I try and try so easy on UTube the tig and mig
is out no way. Nother words I'll braze it or weld it with gas before he pluggs
this new stuff in the wall. My problem: with tig I get it set up I have fill rod
left hand I have tig right hand OK put helmet down Now where in hell is the
seam I have to weld? same with mig can't see what I suppose to weld like a
simple butt weld; I look at my weld I'm no where near the butt. Well I know
one thing > wait till this kid needs reading glasses he's already got grey hairs
because he is a 35 yr old bullet proof & excellent metal worker BUT I try to
tell him your day will come. tough ta get old LOL sam
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:00 AM
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My son has a fleet of migs tigs plasma cutters all high end. Me I braze with
gas, I weld with a stick. So this kid has boondocked my beautiful Gas powered
AC DC Miller my AO Smith stick. I try and try so easy on UTube the tig and mig
is out no way. Nother words I'll braze it or weld it with gas before he pluggs
this new stuff in the wall. My problem: with tig I get it set up I have fill rod
left hand I have tig right hand OK put helmet down Now where in hell is the
seam I have to weld? same with mig can't see what I suppose to weld like a
simple butt weld; I look at my weld I'm no where near the butt. Well I know
one thing > wait till this kid needs reading glasses he's already got grey hairs
because he is a 35 yr old bullet proof & excellent metal worker BUT I try to
tell him your day will come. tough ta get old LOL sam
So you gave up ?

You need help, professional help.
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:48 AM
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My son has a fleet of migs tigs plasma cutters all high end. Me I braze with
gas, I weld with a stick. So this kid has boondocked my beautiful Gas powered
AC DC Miller my AO Smith stick. I try and try so easy on UTube the tig and mig
is out no way. Nother words I'll braze it or weld it with gas before he pluggs
this new stuff in the wall. My problem: with tig I get it set up I have fill rod
left hand I have tig right hand OK put helmet down Now where in hell is the
seam I have to weld? same with mig can't see what I suppose to weld like a
simple butt weld; I look at my weld I'm no where near the butt. Well I know
one thing > wait till this kid needs reading glasses he's already got grey hairs
because he is a 35 yr old bullet proof & excellent metal worker BUT I try to
tell him your day will come. tough ta get old LOL sam
You need a auto darkening hood....
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:52 AM
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My son has a fleet of migs tigs plasma cutters all high end. Me I braze with
gas, I weld with a stick. So this kid has boondocked my beautiful Gas powered
AC DC Miller my AO Smith stick. I try and try so easy on UTube the tig and mig
is out no way. Nother words I'll braze it or weld it with gas before he pluggs
this new stuff in the wall. My problem: with tig I get it set up I have fill rod
left hand I have tig right hand OK put helmet down Now where in hell is the
seam I have to weld? same with mig can't see what I suppose to weld like a
simple butt weld; I look at my weld I'm no where near the butt. Well I know
one thing > wait till this kid needs reading glasses he's already got grey hairs
because he is a 35 yr old bullet proof & excellent metal worker BUT I try to
tell him your day will come. tough ta get old LOL sam
Have you tried using an auto darkening welding hood? If not that may help you to see where the seam is before you get started welding. Now, if you are talking about not seeing the seam while welding, a visit to your eye doctor may be in order.
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