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Old 05-13-2005, 02:01 AM
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As I write this, a friend, mentor, and one of my Rabis is in an induced coma in the ICU in Forsyth Hospital in Winston-Salem. Jim Paw-Paw Wilson is one of the best Blacksmiths I've known, as well as an author.
Below is his last posting on the smithing site. I know him well enough to know he would want it here too, just because his experience might save somebody else.
Since he posted this back on the 4th or 5th, he has been in 2 hospitals, and is now in an induced coma fighting for his life.

""Ain't no fun at ALL!

It was almost funny last night. Sheri was talking to our daughter (LPN) and her comment was, "I'm on my way!" Like many medical personnell, she doesn't trust anyones diagnosis but her own.

After determing that all my vitals (except temperature {102} and blood pressure {109/59}) were within normal limits and that there was no pneumonia she and her mother made me go to bed. While I was laying there, I suddenly remembered burning off some galvanized pipe, and called out to Avis, "Avis, go on line and check out the symptomology for metal fume fever!"

Shortly she came storming into the bedroom, saying, "You nailed it daddy, what the HELL have you been doing?!?"

The conversation deteriorated a good bit after that.

She's not afraid to chew daddy out. (wry grin)

She said (among many other things) that what made it worse was that I KNEW better!

I feel a bit better today than I did last night. Should be over it by tomorrow.

But many thanks to all for careing. ""

Jim got himself in this situation by burning the galvinize off some water pipe in his forge. As he says, he knew better.
Hopefully, the old coot will be out of the hospital and back at the forge soon, so he can continue to pass on a lifetime of wisdom.
If you learn nothing else from this posting, please learn Zink Fume Poisoning can and will get you without warning.
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Old 05-13-2005, 06:52 AM
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Words to continue living by......

thanks for the reminder Franz
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Old 05-13-2005, 07:33 AM
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Heres what I keep in the shop for welding, brazing, galvo and chromium..

There not as good as a full face protector but for $7.77 there way better than nothing. I got them mostly for when the son in law helps me, I don't want to get him sick or kill em, he's only 27, he's got a long way to go.

ENCO has them on top of new catalog page 814 for $7.77 a piece, model # 325-1178

http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/e...er/output_html

If you click on user instructions in the learn more box it tells you what the mask is good for.

Glad your Rabi friend pulled through Franz.

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Old 05-14-2005, 01:39 AM
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Friday the 13th of May 2005

Jim 'PawPaw' Wilson has passed away today due to complications from his fume fever. Jim is survived by his wife Sheri, 4 children and 27 foster children

He died of respiratory failure after a bout of pneumonia trigerred by zinc fume fever.

Words that come to mind remembering Jim; Patriot, Blacksmith, Chairman of Cybersmiths International and author of The Revolutionary Blacksmith, Warrior and Teacher to many, and lover of Dobermans. He left me a whole lot smarter than he found me, and for that alone, I'm glad I knew him. Winston Salem will be a quieter place without the ring of Jim's anvil.

The great saddness here is that Jim's death was preventable. He'd be the first to say so, and chew ya out for burning galvanized. He was the kind of man who posted pictures of the damage to himself when he tangled with a wirewheel a while back, pecking away with one hand so others could learn from it. http://www.anvilfire.com/21centbs/safety/index.htm

Rest in peace Jim.
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Old 05-14-2005, 02:09 AM
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I am very sorry, Franz.
I had heard of him, seen his picture before somewhere on the net, I'm sure.
This is really a shame.
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Old 05-14-2005, 06:40 AM
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Sorry to read this Franz, may your good friend and mentor rest in peace.

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Old 06-04-2005, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Franz
Friday the 13th of May 2005

Jim 'PawPaw' Wilson has passed away today due to complications from his fume fever. Jim is survived by his wife Sheri, 4 children and 27 foster children
http://www.pawpawsforge.com/
Franz,

Sorry to hear of your friend's passing.

What are your recommendations IF someone MUST weld or cut on something that's galvanized? (how to safely remove the galvanizing, exposure protection, etc. ?)

Again, condolences to you and Jim's family and other friends,
Carl
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Old 06-19-2005, 03:41 PM
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Sorry to hear about the loss

So to learn from other peoples mistakes, what is the right way to get galvanize coating off ? Just grind them down ? I would hate for others to suffer from something like this
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I'm sorry for your problems. This is a good reminder of something to keep top of mind, along with avoiding chlorinated brake cleaner. Keep it simple and only get the non-chlorinated stuff. Click image for larger version

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I learned about welding on galvanized steel the first time I tried it. That shit is noxious. I remember as a trucker once taking weldments to a hot dip plant. Watching the guys guys work over open vats of acid and hot trichlorethelyene and molten zinc was quite an eye-opener.

About 30 years ago I was working for a company that welded curtain wall panels for high-rise buildings out of galvanized steel studs and sheets.

It was all done indoors with MIG welders and those guys had some big fans to suck the fumes off.

But of course you don’t want to suck the argon gas off!

What I noticed is that the guys who did that welding successfully were burley cigar smoking meat eaters. Guys that look like they should’ve been doing high-rise structural iron were doing tin can work because they could better deal with the fumes.
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