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Old 07-01-2007, 09:21 PM
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Exclamation Picked up the new baler and Fendt 924, rolled and totalled the 4790 baler

http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thr...sts=41#M169284

This is from an ag related discussion group. -- An addition of info edit here. I was not the operator of the tractor. The incident occured in Canada. I am in Texas. Never been to Canada. I should have mentioned the fact that I was not the operator when I posted this information.

Plenty of pictures in the first post. Loading gets a bit slow.

A 205 PTO HP tractor with a big square baler and bale accumlator had a bit of an incident.

It sure could have been worse. I do not believe that it was entirely the operator's fault. You will probadly be able to figure that one out from reading my posts there.

We all travel at one time or the other on rural roads. Paved and dirt. The farmers are replacing labor with capital, ie, machinery.

Watch out for that big wide and tall farm equipment roading between fields. Things can get out of control in an instant, even at 20 MPH or slower with the big stuff.
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Old 07-01-2007, 10:56 PM
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hey guys first post. on miller and hobart site under same handle. yeh never rolled our tractor but dad has almost had stuff like that happen to him and ive had some moments like that with tralers. glad ur ok and hope u recover both mentally and financially.
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Old 07-01-2007, 11:07 PM
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What you are forgetting is that Fendts will run close 35 MPH down the road, at low throttle, not 20. I can tell by the pics the dealership involved, they are a very large Fendt dealer. Tons of Fendts hauling silage down roads around there. This is not the first road accident involving a Fendt. Not the first demo accident either. Great tractors, but they do go extrememly fast. The new 936 Fendt, (360 HP, MFWD) will do close to 38 MPH.
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Old 07-01-2007, 11:12 PM
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Harv, I just read the entire thread and man was he lucky the tractor didn't go over too. I do agree that this was not all his fault. Ironicly, my wifes uncle has one of them beasts working around our house today and that is one mean looking baler. Supposedly the one here cost $80k new and spits out one huge bale.

Now what I find funny about the entire thread is the ones who brag about using them for years and never had a problem so they automatically assume the operator was at fault. Their day will come and I bet they won't have the balls to post it on that site. I commend the guy for trying to educate people on the hazards associated with this equipment.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:51 AM
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Personally, I've never seen the benefit to having road speeds on tractors or combines to exceed 10 or so mph.

I've farmed and owned the newer equipment available for the 70's at the time, and never ever felt comfortable to wring out a 250 hp Deere on gravel or asphalt. Just never had a reason to be in that much of a hurry.

Those having to pile in behind me because of on-coming traffic might of had another view of things, but I was in a more comfortable spot to inflict the most damage.

Knowing that speed was not the supposed cause, weight was.
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Well road speed helps tremendously on most of these appliations. Compared to the cost of hauling them back and forth on a trailer all the time. If your next field is 20 miles away, these make short work of it. Farmer's aren't too pleased when the custom guy takes an hour to get there, and then it starts raining before he's finished. And this way they can make more field hours per day. Hauling sileage with a dump wagon behind a tractor gives you much better field performance, not getting stuck all the time, and then still gives you a reasonable transport time. If they were driving 20 MPH all the time, they would need 5 tractor/trailer combos to keep up with 3 running 35. Hmmm, at 200,000 a combo, no need for driver, less machines to maintain, insure, store, and finance, it starts to make sense pretty quick. Not saying safety needs to be thrown out the window, but there's alot of room for the market to grow to.

I read some posts that this guy must've slammed the brakes, I highly doubt that, all you need to do on a Fendt is to pull the lever back, and it will slow down controlled and automaticaly. The issue here was merely tongue weight, under ballasted tractor, maybe a little on the operator, but he'd driven a Fendt before. That's about it.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:21 AM
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What you are forgetting is that Fendts will run close 35 MPH down the road, at low throttle, not 20. I can tell by the pics the dealership involved, they are a very large Fendt dealer. Tons of Fendts hauling silage down roads around there. This is not the first road accident involving a Fendt. Not the first demo accident either. Great tractors, but they do go extrememly fast. The new 936 Fendt, (360 HP, MFWD) will do close to 38 MPH.
Heard tell of one of these last season (least i think it was a 936 anyway) landed into the grain depot and was over the limit of the weighbridge. had to unload a bit and then reload to weigh a second time. total train weight was 54 tonnes (119K lbs)

and these things can be legally driven by a 16 year old with no qualifaction other than the ability to fill out an application form.

not sure what the regs are in the states but in some countries, ireland included they are insane.

do JCB export their fasttrack range to the states? 44MPH from the factory and seemingly less than an hours work to bypass the limiter and get them up to in or around fifty. seemingly jcb have track tested prototypes up to 80mph
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:26 AM
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Heard tell of one of these last season (least i think it was a 936 anyway) landed into the grain depot and was over the limit of the weighbridge. had to unload a bit and then reload to weigh a second time. total train weight was 54 tonnes (119K lbs)

and these things can be legally driven by a 16 year old with no qualifaction other than the ability to fill out an application form.

not sure what the regs are in the states but in some countries, ireland included they are insane.

do JCB export their fasttrack range to the states? 44MPH from the factory and seemingly less than an hours work to bypass the limiter and get them up to in or around fifty. seemingly jcb have track tested prototypes up to 80mph
actually in oklahoma(u.s.) i dont think u have to have ur drivers license ta drive em think u just have to be 13 or 14 as long as ur not on highly traveled roads but i may be wrong i just think thats the case. if otherwise i broke that rule a long time ago.
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Old 07-02-2007, 02:08 PM
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Yeah, JCB sells FastTracks in North America. You don't see a whole lot of them, I have seen an article in a magazine about a California hay grower who had a fleet of them to pull his balers. But I've only heard of them going 40 MPH. To me it seems a conventional MFWD tractor would be more versatile than a JCB. Maybe thats why you don't see them too often. I am still of the belief that if they weight woulda been balanced here, it woulda been okay.
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in what way do you think the fasttrack would be at a disadvantage? just curious like
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