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Old 04-06-2012, 10:16 PM
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Here's some pics from my phone last night, was dark when I got home tonight.
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:27 AM
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I got this one at an auction, had a couple chunks of good lead which was what I was after, sold it to a guy from Iowa over on the aws site. I think it actually run better than the one I kept.
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:34 AM
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I have another red one on my truck but this is about my favorite, it holds a small O2, makes the skid completely self contained.

Looks like greywind scored a deal and I didn't read it all into the original question, most that start with,,, is this a good deal? are not,, ha Looks like he might be able to make something of that worthwhile, as Terry said, limited use, gas and a couple other issues not much of a concern.
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Old 04-07-2012, 11:30 AM
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Here's some pics from my phone last night, was dark when I got home tonight.
Mark,that machine looks pretty good,compared to the old antique I used to use.
There are some obvious differences on your machine,such as a completely different exciter, but the basic machine looks virtually identical.With any luck, you will be able to get it to work without a whole lot of extra expense.
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:08 PM
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Just fired it up quickly tonight, and measured the outlet voltage, and the voltage on the welder leads, both were about 7V DC.

The numbers on the plate are as follows: Sa-200-F163
Type K 6090
145253

Will have to take a look later for the specific manuals etc so I can start narrowing down the issue.
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:06 PM
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Just fired it up quickly tonight, and measured the outlet voltage, and the voltage on the welder leads, both were about 7V DC.

The numbers on the plate are as follows: Sa-200-F163
Type K 6090
145253

Will have to take a look later for the specific manuals etc so I can start narrowing down the issue.
I'm just going by a memory of a long ago conversation with a welder, but IIRC, the voltage should be around 40 volts
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Old 04-07-2012, 09:15 PM
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seven volts seems to me you need about 9 more machines in series to get 70 voltd Open Circuit voltage

That is a good reading. it is what we call residual voltage. THis is the natural output without any field current flowing. It suggests an open in the excitation circuit check the exciter brushes. all connections in the excitation circuit then check all the reostats and large resistors for opens. you will get this machine to work without large expense.
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:51 AM
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I've been trying to read up on how to go through checking everything, time's been tight the last few days so I grab what I can when I can.

I'm still finishing up the last little bits of the house demolition job, had a couple small things added to it. In the meantime I took 8-10 trees down at my mom's place as well on Friday, and am trying to get the brush and stuff cleaned up since.

I need to find a true DC capable grinder to test the auxilliary output, the one I used the other day would spin but not up to speed, though I really don't think it's really an AC/DC grinder.

Being that it's Easter weekend too, I haven't been able to give my LWS a call to see if there is a good local source for repairs/parts etc. The one exciter brush has a lot more wear than the other, it looks like it's still making contact though. I wonder if I could still try measuring a resistance across the connection to tell if it is?
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:09 AM
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If your grinder spun at all it is an AC /DC Motor. Basicaly if it has brushes it is DC capable. Some of the variable speed triggers as used on drills and reciprocating saws may not work quite right on a DC only welder.
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Old 04-08-2012, 10:39 AM
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Just fired it up quickly tonight, and measured the outlet voltage, and the voltage on the welder leads, both were about 7V DC.

The numbers on the plate are as follows: Sa-200-F163
Type K 6090
145253

Will have to take a look later for the specific manuals etc so I can start narrowing down the issue.
HERE...

This should help out some...

these manuals match your numbers.......


http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asset...oln3/im208.pdf

http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asset...oln3/im208.pdf

http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asset...oln3/im208.pdf

Parts pages

http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asset...ncoln1/p23.pdf

http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asset...ncoln1/p25.pdf

These machines are so much simpler and more straightforward to troubleshoot than most of the newer designs (like my Trailblazer 301G for instance)..... and the fixes usually entail, replacing brushes, dressing the commutator and cleaning a few connections.... Blowing out clouds of dust from all of the nooks and crannies around the windings and gen with compressed air...
Would not be surprised if you did not have it up and burning stick in no time....
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