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Old 07-07-2018, 10:20 PM
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Old 07-07-2018, 11:32 PM
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We have a rear load unit in the yard right now that got pawned off on us. Perfect for our market area. Small, agile packs pretty decent hasn't run a full 5 day week yet. The Cummins tech has been up 3 times . The theory at this point is we don't get it up to highway speed and run hard and hot long enough to keep it from wanting to REGEN like every third day. It's just an utter POS. It's 10 minutes from one side of town to the other @ probably 40 MPH not a lot of highway time if you know what I mean
It’s frustrating. The product isn’t that bad but the support is all over the place. If the tech was able to perform his own Diag he could probably get you fixed. They have diag steps that have to be followed for all the mouth breathers to complete electronically to fulfil warrranty.

So, instead of the mother fucker that is standing in your lot having an idea, we get our diag and troubleshooting directions from a great database somewhere out there that probably is not taking your duty cycle into consideration.


If it always wants regens either the injectors are bad, bad turbo or bad catalyst.
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Old 07-08-2018, 09:29 AM
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I talked to an old friend, from my OTR days, he said that a lot of carriers (mostly owner/operator's) will not cross the Californica line any more.

Loads are dropped, for later pickup, by cal legal (read that, more expensive) opperators. (sounds to me like a drop yard would be a good business opportunity) I'm also told that the calDOT is looking to get into the price fixing business, regulating the dispatch terminals, in addition to changing regulations / standards daily and going after straight trucks (local delivery) trucks as well.

It seems that the legislators smell more money to be stolen and "redistributed"

The whole "commifornia" thing just turns my stomach, time to cut 'em loose.

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Old 07-08-2018, 10:06 AM
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This is one of the bigger outfits building Gliders. https://www.fitzgeraldgliderkits.com/
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Old 07-08-2018, 10:11 AM
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I almost got a glider at the first of the year, but it sold right before I could nail it down. KW T800 with a CAT 3408 Echo. Would have been sweet.
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Old 07-08-2018, 11:31 AM
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What does REGEN mean?
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Old 07-08-2018, 12:53 PM
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What does REGEN mean?
Regeneration. There are three components to the exhaust in a newer diesel. A diesel oxidation catalyst, which creates heat. A diesel particulate filter which catches the soot and finally a selective catalyst reduction which removes the NOX from the exhaust.

When the duty cycle and ecm determine the DPF is full of soot it will burn a regen to convert the soot to “harmless ash”

It all fits nicely in scrap dumpster.
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Old 07-08-2018, 01:15 PM
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It all fits nicely in scrap dumpster.

Or storage.

Here in southern Onterrible, we have emission testing. Most of the Dodge pickups will still pass the tests, even with the emissions stuff removed. However, our Ministry of Environment, will do roadside inspections, and can, and usually will, fine for not having it installed.

Generally at that point most go to court, plead ignorance, toss the emissions stuff back on for a while, and have fines severly reduced or tossed.

Some guys have scrapped the parts, so then are desperately looking for replacements, so they fetch a decent dollar.



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Old 07-08-2018, 07:03 PM
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Constantly having to REGEN usually means you are just idling too much. These Tier 4 diesels hate idling, ....a thing which all previous Tiers did not care about at all. A good blast of regular highway speed driving is what it wants and will usually keep the DPF clean enough. Now, if all you do is city speeds, you will have to do the REGEN deal fairly often. Nothing to do about it unless you make some highway speed dashes now and again or daily. A good bit of the REGEN issues stem from drivers ignoring the REGEN alert or not letting it complete the cycle. Do that enough times and the SCR system gets all out of whack....meaning expensive repairs. Worst part of these SCR systems is its super easy to get them out of whack. Excessive idiling, bad DEF, bad components, driver inattention, etc...all will contribute and add up quickly.

I am going to have to get used to this now. I noticed that my new Cummins will do a tiny REGEN bout for about 5-8 mins if it idles over an hour or hour and a half. All it does is raise the idle speed to about 1100 rpms. I tried to stave that off preemptively once by manually raising the rpms to 1000 for a spell...only to get a high exhaust temp warning after 5 mins.
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Old 07-08-2018, 08:22 PM
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Some guys have scrapped the parts, so then are desperately looking for replacements, so they fetch a decent dollar.



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Used to put exhaust on a fourth gen dodge parts and labor for $280. Doesn’t make sense until you sell the dpf and doc for $800.
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