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Old 07-14-2016, 08:20 PM
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Yep. The winch on the big trailer started moaning and groaning loading the last car (It wasn't that heavy @3700) to the point it wouldn't really move it. It's related somewhere around 10k line pull. Originally off a rollback. It appears a gasket/sealer failed. So it looks like I gotta dig out the gears and clean them up, put a motor end seal in and get some needle bearing sets for the shafts. After this thing runs again, I picked up a steel toolbox to cut up and fit over it.
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Old 07-14-2016, 08:23 PM
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A couple more. Notice the mount that is bent. That was line pull.
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Old 07-14-2016, 08:35 PM
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Wow not even a trace of oil
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Old 07-14-2016, 08:52 PM
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Is it supposed to have grease or oil in it?
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Old 07-14-2016, 09:17 PM
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That looks like a Braden winch mine is 12000 lb line pull it has gear oil in the gearbox IIRC. Line pull is measured with three wraps on the drum.and a big fully charged battery powering the winch. with a full drum youget between 9 ans 10,000 lbs pull.
They are a real heavy duty winch meant for daily use.
I built custom mounts for mine so it would mount front and rear on my 75 Blazer and carried it inside on a rail so it never was out in the weather.
I had 4/0 welding cable to run power to the back and did all pulling off thev rear as it is hard on the front end to put that type of load on it. Also if I was stuck I usually wanted to pull out backwards not deeper into the problem
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Old 07-14-2016, 09:21 PM
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Supposed to be oil. Looking at the last pic on first post, right above the center shaft, the rusty thing coming out of the top of the case is the oil fill. Guess you can loose a lot of oil when something sets for many months at a time and have enough weather to wash things away...
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Old 07-14-2016, 09:23 PM
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Not a Braden, Terry. It's either a Ramsey or a Tulsa. I'll check for sure tomorrow.
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Old 07-14-2016, 09:26 PM
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Were there any gaskets on the cover?
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Old 07-14-2016, 10:19 PM
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Just gasket sealer Chris. And it is a Ramsey. Not exactly sure if it was made the way I got it. The initial gearbox appears to be an RE12000, but the non drive end housing looks like an H series. As does the cover on the drive end. The RE series according to the posted manuals have a pull type drum release, the H series has a lever. But this thing might have towed the Mayflower, sooo, the older ones might have used the lever. Tomorrow, digging and cleaning. Got to get some new wire wheels now.
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Old 07-14-2016, 10:39 PM
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...And it is a Ramsey...
Just from the shape I thought it had to be either a Ramsey or a Braden. Tulsa made lots of worm drive winches too but I can't remember seeing an electric one. If they did maybe they were never sold up here.

We used to do quite a bit of 4WD stuff at one time and I always preferred the worm-drive winches to the planetary styles like the Warn. PTO or hydraulic drives were the best but they were pretty much reserved for the industrial/commercial crowd--not too many guys building toys could afford them...
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