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Old 11-19-2016, 09:13 PM
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Be sure if you are going to drop the belly pan that you have good blocking, good jacks and help. The belly pan is there to protect the oil pan from rocks etc. It weighs more than you can lift. If you are under it when you pull the bolts you will be the OldRedStain on the ground. You won't be the first either.
I found the best way to drop belly pans....



Have someone else do it---

What you want to do is get chain rigged up so it looks like a 'Y' underneath the pan, 2 points to the rear and the front one being a chain type come along. You want those chains tight enough that the pan doesn't even twitch when you pull the last bolt, and you want to do the last bolt, with an impact, arms length away from the side...actually from the front because there's no room on the sides.
After all the bolts are out you just crank the come along out to lower it to the ground. When you raise it slide a 4x4 block in on top of the chain, under the pan, this gives an angle and better leverage to the chain and it will pull it up tighter..

Do not be under the pan at any time, without a safety, if you can help it.
I have seen pans fall and it won't be good if it falls on you.

I had a pan come loose one time when I pulled the first of four bolts, the other three holes were just pretending and the guy before me had welded the pan to the frame. I rigged my chain first then air arc the welds, I just happened to pick the only bolt that had threads as my first one.

When I was done I rewelded it, all the holes but one were junk, fixing it the right way isn't reasonable when there are scrapers going by 20 foot away and this push cat needs to be in the dirt, now.. YMMV...


This is a pretty good Darwin Award training film..
This pissed me off just watching it, I was almost wanting this idiot to hurt himself on film just so it would put a good finish to a 'how NOT to do it' film...

https://youtu.be/emYfcxXE5eU
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Would be easier to check the oil filters first.


It is the first D8 not the replacement.

Each side of the sump of oil pan has a removable plate. I could go that route too. But I think I may be standing on my head.

At least I stay out of trouble and out of the bottle and off dope.
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Old 11-21-2016, 10:32 AM
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I found the best way to drop belly pans....



Have someone else do it---

What you want to do is get chain rigged up so it looks like a 'Y' underneath the pan, 2 points to the rear and the front one being a chain type come along. You want those chains tight enough that the pan doesn't even twitch when you pull the last bolt, and you want to do the last bolt, with an impact, arms length away from the side...actually from the front because there's no room on the sides.
After all the bolts are out you just crank the come along out to lower it to the ground. When you raise it slide a 4x4 block in on top of the chain, under the pan, this gives an angle and better leverage to the chain and it will pull it up tighter..

Do not be under the pan at any time, without a safety, if you can help it.
I have seen pans fall and it won't be good if it falls on you.

I had a pan come loose one time when I pulled the first of four bolts, the other three holes were just pretending and the guy before me had welded the pan to the frame. I rigged my chain first then air arc the welds, I just happened to pick the only bolt that had threads as my first one.

When I was done I rewelded it, all the holes but one were junk, fixing it the right way isn't reasonable when there are scrapers going by 20 foot away and this push cat needs to be in the dirt, now.. YMMV...


This is a pretty good Darwin Award training film..
This pissed me off just watching it, I was almost wanting this idiot to hurt himself on film just so it would put a good finish to a 'how NOT to do it' film...

https://youtu.be/emYfcxXE5eU
They have another video of removing a cylinder head. Pry bars all over the mating surfaces.
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Old 11-21-2016, 12:37 PM
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This is a pretty good Darwin Award training film..
This pissed me off just watching it, I was almost wanting this idiot to hurt himself on film just so it would put a good finish to a 'how NOT to do it' film...

https://youtu.be/emYfcxXE5eU
There is hope. His kid is filming this as a how to and will have tread marks on his ass sooner or later.
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Old 11-21-2016, 04:52 PM
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There is hope. His kid is filming this as a how to and will have tread marks on his ass sooner or later.
Could be tough on the kid, watching his dad get crunched. The silver lining would be he won't be getting anymore bad training
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Pulled all three of the oil filters and looked for metallic bits. All three look good but dirty. Might have gotten lucky there. Probably still need to drop the oil pan and fish out the valve chunks.

Gasket set showed up yesterday. Thought it would include the gaskets for the intake, exhaust, and water manifold gaskets. But it doesn't.
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Got more engine gaskets. Got .most of the piston rings. This coming week should be getting a replacement piston. Still waiting to have spare time to get the head looked at by a machine shop.
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After this past weeks wind and rain I did get some water in one cylinder. Kind of bummed.
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Pulled all three of the oil filters and looked for metallic bits. All three look good but dirty. Might have gotten lucky there. Probably still need to drop the oil pan and fish out the valve chunks.

Gasket set showed up yesterday. Thought it would include the gaskets for the intake, exhaust, and water manifold gaskets. But it doesn't.
Did you run a magnet through the oil?
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Is that motor ready for an oil change?



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