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Old 09-21-2017, 11:14 PM
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Default Starrett #925 Vise

So I am pondering the rebuild on the Starrett vise.

What I am pondering...

1. How do I get the handle off so I can straighten it? Or should I just cut it off and make a new one from drill rod and harden it?

2. WTF was pounded in to the vise anvil?

3. Should I stick with the traditional blue or make it another color?

4. Is it worth the trouble of sand blasting it? (obviously protecting the critical surfaces in the process)

5. I will be making some new jaws for it, one set will be sold brass jaws.
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Old 09-21-2017, 11:19 PM
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Old 09-21-2017, 11:39 PM
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So I am pondering the rebuild on the Starrett vise.

What I am pondering...

1. How do I get the handle off so I can straighten it? Or should I just cut it off and make a new one from drill rod and harden it?

2. WTF was pounded in to the vise anvil?

3. Should I stick with the traditional blue or make it another color?

4. Is it worth the trouble of sand blasting it? (obviously protecting the critical surfaces in the process)

5. I will be making some new jaws for it, one set will be sold brass jaws.
1. I'd keep the old handle and use a hydraulic jack and a chain to straighten it.

2. I have always thought that vise makers made a big mistake in designing the small flat area and thinking that people would understand it is not really an anvil, it is a vise.

3. I would use the Cutter approach, and finish it in a rust converter finish.

4. Wire bush or flap sand and see #3.

5. Good choice.

That boy with the new tool box likely has his eyes on that vise.
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Old 09-21-2017, 11:51 PM
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A set of v blocks, a press, a dial indicator and a beer could straighten that handle pretty easy.

Looks like rivet heads (To me) have been bashed into the "horizontal surface that resembles an anvil" type area. One shop I worked at had ZERO work benches. My buddy Robert made me a bench complete with Reed vise, he hated to see me struggle. One day I catch a mouth breather trying to crimp battery cables with a HAMMER on the back side of MY vise that didn't even have a "horizontal surface that resembles and anvil". That's the closest I've ever come to killing a man in cold blood. After that day people would actually come up and ask to use my table or vise.

Nice vise! I've got a big ol Wilton that cutter inspired me to get. It's so ugly only I could love it right now.
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I agree with milo de Milo and Neal della Grille. That fine old warrior has earned it's right to some respect. Don't overdo it.
A gaudy new paint job isn't consistent with the dignity of the piece and that Permatex Rust Treatment really does age into a mellow not-too-black that seems to reflect just the right amount of light without being shiny.

Am I seeing that slider correctly, that it has two milled guide surfaces on one side but only one on the other?
I've never noticed that before.
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I had to look real close but I think there are 2 milled surfaces on both sides of the slide. Hard to tell in the pictures though. Nice attention to detail Cutter.

I would just straighten the handle on the vice. Will be a little more of a challenge since it looks like the ends were swaged after putting on the screw shaft. But I know Ron can figure that out!

Permatex Rust treatment sounds good.


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Old 09-22-2017, 11:36 AM
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3. I would use the Cutter approach, and finish it in a rust converter finish.
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A set of v blocks, a press, a dial indicator and a beer could straighten that
handle pretty easy.
I like that.

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A gaudy new paint job isn't consistent with the dignity of the piece and that
Permatex Rust Treatment really does age into a mellow not-too-black that
seems to reflect just the right amount of light without being shiny.
But I like gaudy.

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Am I seeing that slider correctly, that it has two milled guide surfaces on one
side but only one on the other? I've never noticed that before.
I think all 4 sides on the slide are milled.

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I had to look real close but I think there are 2 milled surfaces on both sides
of the slide. Hard to tell in the pictures though. Nice attention to detail Cutter.
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Old 09-22-2017, 12:28 PM
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So I am pondering the rebuild on the Starrett vise.

What I am pondering...

1. How do I get the handle off so I can straighten it? Or should I just cut it off and make a new one from drill rod and harden it?

2. WTF was pounded in to the vise anvil?

3. Should I stick with the traditional blue or make it another color?

4. Is it worth the trouble of sand blasting it? (obviously protecting the critical surfaces in the process)

5. I will be making some new jaws for it, one set will be sold brass jaws.
1. Can the end of the handle be heated, expanding it and allowing for removal? Maybe make a stout fork to beat it off once hot?

2. Idiots, idiots were pounding their brains out into the anvilesque surface of that poor vise.

3. Traditional blue in a high quality epoxy over a zinc primer (I assume it will live indoors).

4. Hell yes! Make that old girl a proud showpiece of the fleet! I like gaudy too!

5. What do you think of making some plates with a pair of vertical stopped dovetails to bolt on in place of the jaws? Then you could make matching jaws of hardened steel - 1 set with "knurling" one set with deepish v's horizontal and vertical, brass, aluminum, and plastic. The dovetails would allow for quick changeover of the jaws (no excuses for clamping that ugly piece of shit in your brass jaws because you were too lazy to change them). I suppose you'd lose a little capacity, just an idea I've had floating around. I suppose I should have patented it before spewing it all over the public domain.
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Old 09-23-2017, 08:53 AM
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1. Can the end of the handle be heated, expanding it and allowing for removal? Maybe make a stout fork to beat it off once hot?

2. Idiots, idiots were pounding their brains out into the anvilesque surface of that poor vise.

3. Traditional blue in a high quality epoxy over a zinc primer (I assume it will live indoors).

4. Hell yes! Make that old girl a proud showpiece of the fleet! I like gaudy too!

5. What do you think of making some plates with a pair of vertical stopped dovetails to bolt on in place of the jaws? Then you could make matching jaws of hardened steel - 1 set with "knurling" one set with deepish v's horizontal and vertical, brass, aluminum, and plastic. The dovetails would allow for quick changeover of the jaws (no excuses for clamping that ugly piece of shit in your brass jaws because you were too lazy to change them). I suppose you'd lose a little capacity, just an idea I've had floating around. I suppose I should have patented it before spewing it all over the public domain.
1. I think I am going to try the V-blocks and press Neal mentioned first and
see if I can get it mostly straight.

2. Some people should not be allowed to own or use tools.

3 & 4. I like they way you think.

5. I like that, maybe make them tapered dovetails so they are self locking...
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Old 09-23-2017, 09:04 AM
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Looks like one end of the vise handle unscrews, mine does. Makes it easier to fix. As far as paint. I have some black oil based paint that I put on a rag with some mineral spirits and wipe it on. It doesn't make it black, but gives it a pleasing color and protects it from rust.
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