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Old 07-10-2019, 01:23 PM
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Son wants to try TIG welding..I told him HF welders have really improved..Anyone have experience with their TIG welders??
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Old 07-10-2019, 03:50 PM
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My local HF has a 200A AC/DC TIG hi-freq. machine in the clearance section I've been eyeing. It is the "new" orange Vulcan brand, probably what you are referring to. It appears they are moving away form TIG/stick only and going with multi-process machines (ie: w/MIG) as the model at my store is not a current offering.

At $800, it "could" be a deal if I absolutely needed it. I thought of offering $500 for it which would be an even better deal... Yes, you can "bargain" with the managers at HF. Clearance items are supposed to be marked down 20% every 2wks.
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Moe, what is he wanting to learn to TIG on? Steel, stainless steel, aluminum, etc. If just steel or stainless steel he could go old school with just a dc welder and a Tig torch with a gas valve knob. It would of course be a scratch start instead of a hi-freq start. I did it that way for many of years of off an Airco Dip Stick 160 and a Lincoln Ranger 8 engine drive. Horror fright has the titanium dc welder for about $249 right now and a Tig torch with gas valve knob should not be too expensive to keep him under $500 I would think.
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Moe, what is he wanting to learn to TIG on? Steel, stainless steel, aluminum, etc. If just steel or stainless steel he could go old school with just a dc welder and a Tig torch with a gas valve knob. It would of course be a scratch start instead of a hi-freq start. I did it that way for many of years of off an Airco Dip Stick 160 and a Lincoln Ranger 8 engine drive. Horror fright has the titanium dc welder for about $249 right now and a Tig torch with gas valve knob should not be too expensive to keep him under $500 I would think.
He wants to do a little bit of all metals...He's single, has money and I get to use the toys too...

I have had a Lincoln tomb stone AC welder for many years. Always thought about getting a HF unit and mod it...
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Well since he is single...

Go BIG!
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Well since he is single...

Go BIG!
Now that is BIG! Especially the price!
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Well since he is single...

Go BIG!
Did I say tight too....
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Well since he is single...

Go BIG!
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Did I say tight too....
But since he IS single (and young?), he could get a used Dynasty 200, then spend a little extra and get a water-cooled torch setup (#20). That setup will last the rest of his life... You might find one local in the $1500 range (or less).

Or spend a little more (or less) and get a new Diversion 180. Looks like a nice starter/all-around TIG. LINK Add $500-$600 for a water-cooled torch and cooler. The WC torch can be used with another TIG should he upgrade to a Dynasty 800...

PS: and he'll need at least a 125cf of Argon. Buy the tank, it is easier that way then just swap out or buy two tanks and drop the empty off to be filled.
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Son wants to try TIG welding..I told him HF welders have really improved..Anyone have experience with their TIG welders??
Moe, for someone who want to learn the basics, I don't think you can go wrong
with a HF machine. They seem to be decent machines. However, I would
suggest one that has AC and DC. AC so you can weld aluminum, 50% of my
TIG work is aluminum.

I would also look around and see if you can get a used Miller or Lincoln unit.
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Moe, for someone who want to learn the basics, I don't think you can go wrong
with a HF machine. They seem to be decent machines. However, I would
suggest one that has AC and DC. AC so you can weld aluminum, 50% of my
TIG work is aluminum.

I would also look around and see if you can get a used Miller or Lincoln unit.


Good advice...I'll push HF..Not too keen on used out of warranty equip...
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