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Old 09-05-2012, 08:48 AM
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Default Needed a 37° flaring tool......

I have needed a better way to make flares on brake lines, etc. for years but could not bring my self to spend the money on a hydraulic flaring tool for several years.
Well last week I was making up a list of hoses for the Cadtrac, when I added up the prices I was over $150 with more to add once I have the loader arms designed. I started looking at different manufacturers models of flaring tools.
I found a nice hand flaring tool that would do 37° flares but it was more then I wanted to spend on one.
I started debating buying a hydraulic unit, a friend has a Snap On unit that works well, but it was pretty pricy, and I could not find out if I could get a set of 37° dies for it.
I ended up ordering one off of Amazon, it is made by Mastercool.
  1. Case it is packed in.
  2. Overall view of the flaring tool.
  3. Close up of tool and its dies.
  4. I bought the 37°dies separately
I decided to buy a universal kit and buy the 37° dies as an add-on instead of buying the 37° kit and have to buy the other dies.
The kit I bought includes.....
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This kit fabricates Push Connect Flare, 1/4", 5/16" and 3/8"; GM Fuel Line Flare 5/16" and 3/8"; Flare / Double Flare 3/16", 1/4", 5/16", 3/8" and 1/2" and Metric Bubble Flaring 475mm, 6mm, 8mm and 10mm placed in a custom molded box
The 37° kit......
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Allows owners of MSC71475 45 degree set to now perform all 37 degree applications
Includes 3/16", 1/4", 5/16", 3/8" and 1/2" adapters
Includes 3/16", 1/4", 5/16", 3/8" and 1/2" die sets
Includes 37 degree cone
I have to figure out how to set it for 37° single flares, but it makes beautiful 37° double flares.
It was not cheap at $380 with shipping but I should not have to drag out the old hand flaring tool anytime soon.
Dan.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:54 AM
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It was not cheap at $380 with shipping.
Well actually it was cheap Dan.

Hovis auto carries them, and they get upwards of $450 for the same thing :

So I think you did fine.

I looked at them when they first came out, they seem to do every flare
known, including the flat looking ridge thingies.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:58 PM
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Looks like a nice set! I've wanted to try one of those sets, but due to price I ended up with a Roto-flair 212FB from ATS. Works fantastic, and is fairly easy to use in tight spaces (i.e. underneath a car doing brake lines).

The downside is that it only does 37 deg flares, so if I need another angle (45), I'd need another tube. None the less I can highly recommended the 212FB if on a budget for quality flares.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:29 AM
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Well actually it was cheap Dan.

Hovis auto carries them, and they get upwards of $450 for the same thing :

So I think you did fine.

I looked at them when they first came out, they seem to do every flare
known, including the flat looking ridge thingies.
Doug, I called the local Hovis and got the run around from the guy, so I decided to buy it from Amazon. Advance Auto could order it for me but at the price they quoted I could buy the universal kit and the 37° adapter kit online for the same money.
I made up a couple of flares with it as practice and it works well.
The only gripe with it is like most specialty tools the instructions are a little vague, they expect the user to already know what he is doing.
jlane, I looked at one of those when I first started researching 37° JIC flares so I could run steel tubing on the Cadtrac project. But I need to replace my old double flare tool as it has a few broken parts in it. So I decided to buy this one.
I may buy one of those still if I decide to run bigger lines then this will do.
The next purchase will be 1/2", 3/8", and 1/4" Ridgid 400 series benders.
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Doug, I called the local Hovis and got the run around from the guy,.
NO....say it isn't so....HOVIS ? run around ?

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Looks like a nice set! I've wanted to try one of those sets, but due to price I ended up with a Roto-flair 212FB from ATS. Works fantastic, and is fairly easy to use in tight spaces (i.e. underneath a car doing brake lines).

The downside is that it only does 37 deg flares, so if I need another angle (45), I'd need another tube. None the less I can highly recommended the 212FB if on a budget for quality flares.
Do you use the 212FB on stainless?
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It looks like it is $297.99 on Amazon today.
http://www.amazon.com/Mastercool-714.../dp/B00AZAFXUW
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It looks like it is $297.99 on Amazon today.
http://www.amazon.com/Mastercool-714.../dp/B00AZAFXUW
The 37* dies are around $75 extra so the price is still pretty close to the same.

After speaking with Dan a few months ago I purchased the same setup and it is great. There are a few things I might if i could change but it is leaps and bounds above the cheap flaring tools on the market.

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I've had that setup for quite a few years. You will enjoy it, they do a really nice job. Mike
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Old 01-30-2015, 09:31 AM
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Bill, the set is a little overboard for a home shop but I thought since I would be using it more than once or twice a year, it was worth the investment. The 37° kit is as Zach said a extra. But it has already paid for itself running lube lines on two pieces of equipment for a local company.
Zach, glad it has worked well for you.
Mike, one reason I bought this brand was a few of the refrigeration guys I know have Mastercool sets, and they liked them. I was debating on buying from Snappy but the local rep did not seem to want my business at the time.
I have been well pleased with its performance and would buy a set again if I had the need.
Dan.
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