vertical bandsaw preference and VFD?

[allessence]

Originally Posted by cutter

That's really cool, Jenn.
Another very nice thread, too.

Thanks you guys. I really enjoy being part of this forum. You guys are so helpful and it really make projects like these saws go so much smoother.

Really THANK YOU, VERY MUCH!!!!!!!

Today I clean out the spot where the saw is going and with any luck, I'll be able to move it over there without to much effort.

Now finding a spot to move the wonderful stuff that is in the spot now, maybe the biggest challenge.

So, in an earlier post I said it doesn't weigh that much. Well, it certainly has to weigh something because it sitting on the floor in one spot for the last 4 days has sunk the casters into the black bitumuous tar pavement floor about 1/4".


Junky tar pavement!!!!!

Maybe sometime in the not so distant future I'll have a nice shop with a cement floor that is level without pot holes. I step at a time.

On another quick note. The green Gobbler paint spill, Well that just turned out to be a mess. All the news paper that I had put on top. Well, lets just say it is permenetly glued to the floor. LOLLLLLL

[cutter]

Originally Posted by allessence

On another quick note. The green Gobbler paint spill, Well that just turned out to be a mess. All the news paper that I had put on top. Well, lets just say it is permenetly glued to the floor. LOLLLLLL

And yet in all likelihood you still think of paint as your friend & get the warm fuzzies just anticipating the next time you'll pop the lid off another quart or pint.
It's such an insidious addiction!

[allessence]

Originally Posted by cutter

And yet in all likelihood you still think of paint as your friend & get the warm fuzzies just anticipating the next time you'll pop the lid off another quart or pint.
It's such an insidious addiction!

Good thing I love the color. The bottoms of my shoes have this green iridescent radiance about them.

[allessence]

Hello, In my curiosity, I have come to the conclusion!!! NOT..


Which is better?

Ball bearing blade guides or carbide?


My Johnson has ball bearing and seem to wear well, and have unlimited adjustment (within reason) talking just the act of moving shims etc. And the blade is really held in place.

Then on my new Powermatic it has carbide which don't really even hit the blade per-say. I mean they are there to guide but still have some clearance.


Problem with the ball bearing? Can't see any though I am no expert.

Problem with carbide? Can't make any, when you change blade size you are supposed to change 4 guides. Each at 45.00. OUCH.

So, I was thinking why not ball bearing guides and it seems they all (Doall, Powermatic, Grob) sold them as an option, mainly for high speed wood working it seems.


Carter makes some.
http://www.carterproducts.com/produc...=143&cat_id=13

What ya think?

[allessence]

Okay, I can see I got no takers here either. This isn't a case of I love you and not get a return is it?????

I mean I'm looking for options as to how to make guides that aren't going to be 200.00 for a set of blades. Which would mean I would need 5 sets. OUch.

I was thinking I could make some out of square cold rolled and braze on some carbide faces.

After some deliberation (no one responding!!!!) I took it upon myself to look at things in a new light. I have come to the conclusion the carbide vs ball bearings is a better way to go.

For starters, you can bring the top guide just about down till it touches the material which means you can get more precise cut's vs the ball bearings which no matter how its located still can't get that close. Okay, well this is really the only real piece of information I could have come up with.


So, what you guys think about brazing up my own. Seems like some carbide in smaller pieces is reasonably priced.

Anybody with a source?

[kvom]

My (limited) experience is that the Johnson will cut stuff a lot easier than the vertical saw, which is more useful on smaller cuts or ones that can't be held easily in the horizontal vise. So I would personally stick with the cheaper guides unti you know you need better.

[OLD MAN]

I know where there is a Johnson for $400.

[cutter]

Jennifer, I ran Kool Blocks in my Delta vertical for years.
Now that I am using ball bearing guides I see nothing to recommend them over the Kool Blocks.
I would use whatever was handy but then that's just me - not much of a purist.

[allessence]

Originally Posted by cutter

Jennifer, I ran Kool Blocks in my Delta vertical for years.
Now that I am using ball bearing guides I see nothing to recommend them over the Kool Blocks.
I would use whatever was handy but then that's just me - not much of a purist.

Yeah, nor am I. At least not anymore.

I learned a few years back that engineers are given a certain budget and are told to make X work with Y for a given amount of time for the budgeted moneys.

In my quest for ignorance I've questioned, rebuilt, re engineered more than I'd like to admit to.

This is why, I post questions like the guides. Or RPC etc.

So, anybody willing to cut some slots into some 1/2 CR so I can braze carbide faces on? Being a paying gig!!!! I would imagine once setup would be a piece of cake. I'll post pictures of the existing guides and we can go from there.

[allessence]

Originally Posted by kvom

My (limited) experience is that the Johnson will cut stuff a lot easier than the vertical saw, which is more useful on smaller cuts or ones that can't be held easily in the horizontal vise. So I would personally stick with the cheaper guides unti you know you need better.

My Johnson cuts like no bodies business. Problem is I have 1000's of cuts to make in a custom intake manifold and is the reason I bought the vertical saw. Or at least this is what I lead myself to believe.

I have 1/2guides now for the powermatic, but need 1" and 1/4". I figure this would be a good start since the bands I ordered from DCT are those sizes and are the correct number of teeth for the stock size.

I did try the 1/2 blades and these will work on the thinner walled alum pipe, But when I tried it on the 1/2" stuff it gummed up the works.