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Old 03-12-2019, 10:13 PM
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Ok guys I am just learning about welding and buying my equipment to get me started on the basics.But I have some problems to get started so I want to build my dad a steel grill and have it ready for him on his 60th birthday it’s a preety big event and I have a lot of pressure to get this done even if it requires assistance.When it comes down to it I found the material has to be 16g galvanized tubular steel.The whole frame is going to be 7ft length not sure on width.I have pictures of this frame and it’s exactly what I want to build.What do you guys think.
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:48 PM
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Have you welded on galvanized steel before?
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:52 PM
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When it comes down to it I found the material has to be 16g galvanized tubular steel.
I think you might want to re-think your material choice or at least be sure you're set up to protect yourself from the fumes.

Read this thread: Galvanize

Everybody on this forum has probably welded at least a little bit of galvanized steel at some point but they were aware of the risks or they learned pretty quickly.
Since you're just getting started I expect you don't have protective equipment for it.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:10 PM
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What size of galvanize steel rods do you think this is looking by the photos.I am trying my hardest to find just exactly the prices here in west Texas.I have never welded galvanized but I really want to make this grill because my dad likes to bbq and cook different types of stuff.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:11 PM
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Have you welded on galvanized steel before?
Bo I have not is it flammable everyone says it’s “dangerous”
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Old 03-13-2019, 12:30 AM
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Bo I have not is it flammable everyone says it’s “dangerous”
Quite simply, the fumes will kill you; at the very least you can be very ill. And, never mind the fumes from welding it, if this frame is for a barbecue and there's any possibility it will get hot you don't want to use it for any reason. Mild steel or stainless is your friend here...
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Old 03-13-2019, 12:43 AM
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Yep Galvanized steel is for sure the worst choice of material to use for this project... Sound like you really like your pops so do yourself a favor and start over with proper and much less dangerous material especial if you going to be cooking on it, it will poison you and your pops...

Something not mentioned here you will figure out in the Galvanized threat is many of us who learned the hard way is still having lasting health damage from welding it even when we use proper gear that failed or the wind just kept it around us...
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Old 03-13-2019, 12:54 AM
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Well damn now I’m starting to think galvanized is not a good choice I could of sworn this was standard industry practice.Because if you see the outdoor kitchen frames out there most use galvanized.The issue with building a kitchen frame is HEAT,mold,flames.Its highly recommended to cut out vents every 6 feet because inside the frame which will be permanently covered with concrete board and cement the temps can reach hundreds of degrees IF there are multiple top burners.But even with 1 burner like a 30 inch grill which I plan to do I was thinking it can reach maybe 200 degrees or so.I don’t think this will be a negative factor when adding vents and having a stainless steel grill not making contact.Is the actual steel flammable? I think we are blowing this out of proportion.

Again this is standard industry practice in no professional but I have seen how these grills are done.But I’m not sure if I am ok with welding with fumes I don’t plan on losing the last few brain cells I already have.

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Old 03-13-2019, 02:33 AM
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If galvanize it is done post welding .I would lean more toward stainless or powder coat the frame after assembly . Be sure and tell powder coater it will be UV exposed . There are some tricks there . I just removed the stuff on screwups . Several here can tell you the fun of that .
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Old 03-13-2019, 06:47 AM
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Even if you wear a proper respirator and the fumes don't get you, every single joint you weld is still going to rust because to get good welds you have to grind the galvanizing off, or at the very least run hot enough to burn through it.

You will be much better off to buy bare steel tubing, it will be cheaper and easier to find. Then you can use high temp paint on it after the welding is done. All of your joints will be protected and you won't run any health risks.

The only time I work with galvanized steel is when I am repairing something that was already galvanized, I would never willingly start a project with galvanized metal because there are tons of risks and absolutely no benefit. The project will still require rust protection when you are done as every cut, grind mark, and weld will still be bare metal.
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