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Old 08-30-2020, 10:54 PM
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Has anyone got an opinion on Lincoln NR211 MP flux core wire in. 035"?
I am currently using a Miller wire which does the job but is about to run out so I am curious about the Lincoln wire. I don't use gas, any comments?
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Old 08-31-2020, 01:43 AM
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Has anyone got an opinion on Lincoln NR211 MP flux core wire in. 035"?
I am currently using a Miller wire which does the job but is about to run out so I am curious about the Lincoln wire. I don't use gas, any comments?
Yeah, its a fair wire for the smaller suitcase sized welders...what machine do you have?

It tacks easy and runs very well. It snaps off easy for a clean restart, it lights off real easy too.. You can get some pretty welds with it. Not much slag, and it comes off easy..

When you tack, 211 is kinda brittle. You wont get the movement that other wires will give you, it oftentimes snaps off instead of moving when you hit it...kind of like the difference between 7018 tacks and 6011 tacks...

A more versatile wire would be Hobart Fabshield 21B. It doesnt give you as pretty a bead as 211 does but it is more malleable if you need it. Its also not as smokey, but neither one of those is really bad. I think its also rated higher in seismic loads but that's not something you'll be worrying about.
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Yeah, its a fair wire for the smaller suitcase sized welders...what machine do you have?

It tacks easy and runs very well. It snaps off easy for a clean restart, it lights off real easy too.. You can get some pretty welds with it. Not much slag, and it comes off easy..

When you tack, 211 is kinda brittle. You wont get the movement that other wires will give you, it oftentimes snaps off instead of moving when you hit it...kind of like the difference between 7018 tacks and 6011 tacks...

A more versatile wire would be Hobart Fabshield 21B. It doesnt give you as pretty a bead as 211 does but it is more malleable if you need it. Its also not as smokey, but neither one of those is really bad. I think its also rated higher in seismic loads but that's not something you'll be worrying about.
Thanks, actually it is Fabshield I'm using now not a Miller wire as I posted. I will probably give it a try. The machine is Lincoln SP 170
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I ordered the Lincoln, bit of a performance. as neither it or Fabshield are in stock locally. Had to pay upfront which is not a problem, cost $130. I could have got some rebranded Chinese wire which is very good for $99 delivered but I'm over the Chinese so I'm having a one man protest.
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I ordered the Lincoln, bit of a performance. as neither it or Fabshield are in stock locally. Had to pay upfront which is not a problem, cost $130. I could have got some rebranded Chinese wire which is very good for $99 delivered but I'm over the Chinese so I'm having a one man protest.
I am sure you'll like it.

The money you would save buying the cheaper wire is used up the first time it causes you an issue. Not even worth it....

211 is a sweet wire. When it first came out I was using rolls of .068 like crazy, Lincoln said you could use it for anything, any position, any thickness, multi pass...

After a couple of yrs they downgraded it quite a bit. I think its rated at 5/16 material and not sure if its still multi pass or not. Its awesome for a garage or light duty weld shop. Its really good for handrail or orny stuff, gates and such....
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TEK, I will be using it on light material. Mainly vertical up with about 1/16 to 1/8 gap with a copper backing plate. It is a run of parts I make. The backing plate has a shallow groove in for penetration. TheFabshield works well inthis and I guess the Lincoln will too.
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Tried it today, less heat than the Fabshield, seems to go best on about 3/8 stick out and very smooth. Generally happy with the result.
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Tried it today, less heat than the Fabshield, seems to go best on about 3/8 stick out and very smooth. Generally happy with the result.
Awesome! Glad to hear...
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Tried it today, less heat than the Fabshield, seems to go best on about 3/8 stick out and very smooth. Generally happy with the result.


I remember watching a weld.com video a while back and RedBeard was saying that you should have about 1/2- 3/4” stickout when using selfsheilding wire. It helps to heat up the flux in the wire so it works properly. I never heard this, but it seemed to work better for me when I tried it.




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[QUOTE=toprecycler;761137]I remember watching a weld.com video a while back and RedBeard was saying that you should have about 1/2- 3/4” stickout when using selfsheilding wire. It helps to heat up the flux in the wire so it works properly. I never heard this, but it seemed to work better for me when I tried it.


I found with the Fabshield I needed 1/2-3/4 stickout but this did not like that much so I experimented and it likes 3/8-1/2. I haven't done a lot with it, just some plug welds. I was also not using the standard tip for the machine as I had run out so I found one the right wire size but it is a good 1/4 inch longer so that might be affecting it.
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