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Old 06-20-2005, 06:04 PM
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Default Calling John McCracken . . . . . . .

Yo John (or anyone else that might be able to help).....

Can you tell about what model year this machine is by looking at it ?

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Old 06-20-2005, 06:13 PM
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Pre 1973 because of the vacuum idler. If the face plate is authentic it looks to be one of the 1960's redfaces. I think JT will confirm that that would make it one of the most desirable SA-200's to be had among the pipelining crowd.

Was that okay John?

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Old 06-20-2005, 06:15 PM
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Marko, I'll guarantee you that machine is a complete repaint with a new faceplate.
JT has the chart on his website, but you need the serial # and possibly the code # to date the machine.
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Old 06-20-2005, 06:26 PM
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Of course Marko, Franz's machine is also one of the sought after 60's models
and you know whats been done to it. Also a very reasonable price I might add compared to what I paid for mine.

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Old 06-20-2005, 06:27 PM
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Marko, I'll guarantee you that machine is a complete repaint with a new faceplate.
JT has the chart on his website, but you need the serial # and possibly the code # to date the machine.
I know Uncle Franz, but I don't have the serial or code number. I just thought someone could give me a "ballpark" guess-timate.

I guess the old ones are almost as good as the new ones....(if they work)......and lot's cheaper !
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Old 06-20-2005, 06:41 PM
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I think there are people who'd contend the older machines are better than the new machines. Old ones can be updated with the new idlers and other bells & whistles, but the new machines will never be built the way the old ones were.
Lincoln rarely had a machine come back when the company was run James Lincoln's way, and the men who built them earned damn good money doing their job right the first time. Funny thing, when the old man was running the company they didn't even need QC inspectors cause everybody was in charge of Quality.
The history of Lincoln Electric is very interesting, and a lot of Jap[anese manufacturing is based on James Lincoln's concepts.
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Marko, about the only way I can describe to you how these machines run. Is just imagine setting way back in the seat of a Lincoln Town Car, your left hand draped over the steering wheel, and your right hand wrapped around the beverage of your choice…. These things are so smooth. Lincoln just has it’s own power, very hard to describe

Not to hijack your thread, but this was just giving to me. What engine should I be looking for? No need for diesel, the days of me pushing a machine to the max are long gone. Would like to get a 4 or 6 cylinder gas engine for it. Was thinking of a little 6-cylinder Chevy, any better ideas?
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Old 06-20-2005, 07:09 PM
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The ID plate, Shield Arc, SAE 200, Volts 40, AMPS 200, RPM 1500
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I really don't know. There are several indicators tho, it has a generator as opposed to an alternator (I don't know when they made that change), the leads bolt onto the front (I think '72 was the last year for that but I'm not sure), and it has the sharply broke front cover instead of the smoother one (I don't know when that was changed either). My '68 has the smooth front end.

'70 is about when they started putting some aluminum in them. Older is considered better by a lot of people.

So I'm no help but my best guess is early 60's to '67 at the latest.

He sure has it cleaned up nice doesn't he?

There's a guy on this site that knows where there are one or two SA-200's for a good price that were checked out by a welding machine repair shop. I won't speak for him but he might get ahold of you himself. I believe in the south east part of the country.

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Was thinking of a little 6-cylinder Chevy, any better ideas?

80" Harley-Davidson. Or an old Ford flathead V-8.

Get the serial number off that thing and you can check the year of manufacture on the last page of my website.

Quite a haul there! I like it.


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