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Old 03-21-2020, 06:08 AM
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Yes was referring to the rocker bolts the other stripped holes I’d put off to an idiot had a guy that worked there that liked to run spark plugs in with a an air racket and wondered why they stripped in aluminum heads I didnt stay long


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Old 03-21-2020, 10:08 AM
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Spark plug holes in aluminum....ugh.

An acquaintance, Greasy Joe, came by with his truck, a Ford Triton making a clicking sound at idle. I determined that a plug hole was stripped and the plug was moving in and out creating a click.
He decided to take it to a guy with a shop who would do it cheaply, because I tormented him about Fords.
He came back a couple days later with a much louder click. I asked him how much it cost to make it that loud. He said nothing. The guy tapped the hole too deep and the helicoil would now screw right into the piston. Which it did and that was the clicking sound.
So I was able to get the spark plug out and then the helicoil unscrewed by sticking my little finger into it and unscrewing it.

I locktited the helicoil onto the sparkplug, and then coated the helicoil with locktite and screwed it into the head at the depth it should be. I explained that I had done this, and told him to take it to a reputable shop and they could maybe fix it or replace the head.

As he backed out, he said fuck the shop, I'm taking it to the car auction.

Someone else has a problem now.
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:21 AM
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When I saw the first picture, my first thought was that puppy is going to need a long hot bath.

Do they make a bucket of carb cleaner big enough to fit the heads in?
Matthew put it in the solvent tank last night and scrubbed it good to get
the 1/4" of sludge off, I am going to punch all the oil galleys out today and
remove the camshaft bearings. And Monday take it a local shop for a boil
out and honing. There is no ridge.

New bearings, rings and heads, plus the misc. stuff and then on to the
transmission.
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:40 AM
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What are you planning for the transmission?
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Old 03-21-2020, 12:38 PM
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...either a Jasper rebuild or a Harold rebuild...
OK, those terms gotta mean something--never heard them used that way before.

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That sludge reminds of of the old days when my job was to clean out the sludge when my dad tore down a engine in the days before detergent oil showed up.
Yeah, it does take you back. My Dad used to rebuild the engines in his cars--back when they were simple and easy to fix--and I got to play helper. Somewhere around here I've got a picture of me when I was 6-7 years old scrapin' the black tar like goo off an engine. I was covered with the sh*t. Apparently my Mom had a nice long talk with Dad about that one.

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...an idiot had a guy that worked there that liked to run spark plugs in with a an air racket and wondered why they stripped in aluminum heads...
Well, it's a lot faster that way. Spark plugs really don't need to be very tight.

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An acquaintance, Greasy Joe, came by with his truck, a Ford Triton making a clicking sound at idle. I determined that a plug hole was stripped and the plug was moving in and out creating a click.
He decided to take it to a guy with a shop who would do it cheaply, because I tormented him about Fords.
He came back a couple days later with a much louder click. I asked him how much it cost to make it that loud. He said nothing...
Would love to have been there when you had that conversation--you bein' so quiet and reserved in situations like that.

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...As he backed out, he said fuck the shop, I'm taking it to the car auction.

Someone else has a problem now...
One of the reasons why I've never bought a car at an auction...
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What are you planning for the transmission?
Rebuild it new steels and friction, new seals all around, we have it out and it is
easy to so. Make it reliable, little to worry about. Matt plans on taking this to
Nuke school so he has a car there. This way it is good for as long as he owns
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It is also a good learning experience for Matt.
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Old 03-21-2020, 12:51 PM
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Old 03-21-2020, 01:38 PM
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My name is Harold .I have historically had good luck on rebuilds,if I use chosen machine shop .If it is a race engine it will depend on the driver and luck .Just fair average in them .
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Old 03-21-2020, 01:45 PM
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...An acquaintance, Greasy Joe, came by with his truck, a Ford Triton making a clicking sound at idle. I determined that a plug hole was stripped and the plug was moving in and out creating a click.
There is a "method" experienced techs use to get those long-ass spark plugs out of the 3-valve Ford but don't quote me on it. With engine hot hot, they back the plugs out with an impact! Apparently this is successful 90% of the time. The other 10% it strips them out as does trying to take them out cold.

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As he backed out, he said fuck the shop, I'm taking it to the car auction.

Someone else has a problem now.
My car dealer friend will NOT buy cars at auction from the small dealers--strictly the big boys who don't want a high-mile trade-in on the used car lot and just send them to auction. The small dealers are usually buyers--if they are putting a car up for auction there is usually an issue such as you describe, bad tranny when warm or branded/unobtainable title...
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Old 03-21-2020, 02:09 PM
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There is a "method" experienced techs use to get those long-ass spark plugs out of the 3-valve Ford but don't quote me on it. With engine hot hot, they back the plugs out with an impact! Apparently this is successful 90% of the time. The other 10% it strips them out as does trying to take them out cold.
Yeah well I take them out when I buy the vehicle and put on never-seize
right away and I don't have issues. I also use a torque wrench installing
the new ones as well... I am weird that way...
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