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Old 06-18-2004, 09:14 AM
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I was wondering if someone that knew more than me could tell me if it was worth it to make this welder run again and how much its worth at this point.

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Old 06-18-2004, 10:10 AM
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I think I'd pass on that one
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I will probably catch some flak for this one.

I have used many gas and diesel driven welding machines, some new and some old. Personally I wouldn't give a pinch of racoon $--T for a hobart . Lincoln is the only way to go .
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Old 06-18-2004, 12:03 PM
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Unless you live next to the machine, and can check it out, it's barely worth bringing home.
You can run the 3 phase power supply from a convertor, BUT the "Microtronics" name on the front of the machien concerns me. This may have been built as a purpose specific machine. NO factory support will be available because Hobart Bros was busted up as part of the ITW acquisiton, and the industrials were sold to Thermal Dynamics. Thermal scrapped everything they didn't intend to continue marketing, and that probably includes manuals. Factor in the likelyhood Thermal will be helpful with a machine they never made or will make a buck off.
The wirefeed mechanism on top appears to be a standard machine, but without looking, it ain't worth a whole lot.
The machine would need to be inspected before buying. Also factor in what a regulator and flow meter will cost.
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I will probably catch some flak for this one.

I have used many gas and diesel driven welding machines, some new and some old. Personally I wouldn't give a pinch of racoon $--T for a hobart . Lincoln is the only way to go .
STICK, would that be "Hobart" or "Hobart Brothers" machines? There is a major difference!
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Well thanks guys I didnt know so I thought I would ask I think I will wait and buy a new 210 class mig.
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STICK, would that be "Hobart" or "Hobart Brothers" machines? There is a major difference!
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I would be happy if you would educate me as to the difference . I was referring to the Gold and Blue Hobarts. I have been off the work force for nearly 20 years (where did the time go) and have only used Miller (one that I bought at a yard sale for $100.00) and a Lincoln 225/125 (that I bought new) since.

One place that I worked had a 300 amp Hobart powered with a Chrysler slant six. Even new it was the worst welder that I ever used. Set it to where is was welding good and in twenty minutes you would have to fiddle with the settings again.

I never came across a bad Lincoln.
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Old 06-18-2004, 11:35 PM
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Prior to the ITW buyout Hobart Bros made the machines, and they were, for the most part, pretty decent welders. I think the one with the slant 6 was some engineer's wet dream from square jump, like the Edsel. I only saw one of those machines, and it was sitting for sale as a slightly used demonstrator for years without any takers.
Hobart Bros made some good industrial machines, and they were the primary developer of some interesting systems, such as plasma welding.
When ITW bought out Hobart Bros, Lincoln pitched a hissey, and ITW had to sell off the heavy product line to satisfy the feds. All the heavy end of Hobart was sold off to Thermal Dynamics, and ITW kept the small machine end of the business and whored the Hobart name.
TD skimmed the cream of what they bought, and sold it under their own name, and sh!tcanned everything else, including all the parts for old machines and teck info for them, cause they would be damned if they'd support a machine they didn't make money selling. TD wound up in Chp 11 Bankruptcy shortly afterwards, and is now supposedly solvent again.
Lincoln eyeballed what ITW was doing, going after the homeowner market, and began producing their own homeowner line in the same time frame, in Italy. Lincoln has just bought Century to gain a larger share of market. Lincoln's service ain't what it used to be when James Lincoln ran the company either.

It really doesn't make much difference who makes the machine, they have all made some real crap over time.
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