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Old 06-16-2004, 04:36 PM
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went to get some cast iron rod for a job coming up ....gear box on a haybine.
well i don't make it a habit of stocking cast rod cuz i don't use it that much..
anywho this case has been welded before and it broke in the first 5 minutes the guy ran it so he brought it to me this time for repair...well i went down and selected the rod i wanted for the repair messer rod mg289 rated at 75,000psi...2lbs of it .
so i go up to pay .....he said no tax right ....yep....that comes to 120 bucks .....WHAT!!!!....buddy you better check that again...he checks ...yep 120 bucks ..it is 60 bucks a pound...well after a few selected words about theiving bastards....i went back to select a little cheaper rod ...well was going to go with mg262 ..80,000psi at 10 a pound ...but there was none so i settled on mg260 rated at 64,000psi...and 40 bucks for 2 pounds....i was like sh!t just last week i got 20 lbs of 309 for 80 bucks ...what the hell happened
and before anyone asks i selected the mg289 cuz it was made for oilly cast...so if my clean up and bake was not enough to clean it the rod would handle it
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Old 06-16-2004, 04:43 PM
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They all found out that Joey had figured out a revolutionary way to TIG cast Iron so the suppy of rods is much harder to come by.

Since it is "near impossible" to TIG cast iron...DUH?

Steel prices in general are crazy, I have lowered myself to scavenging angle Iron from old mobile home frames, and getting sheet and other stock from junkyards. Not a pretty situation, but I am finding some original ways to do things.. old signposts, and other such stuff.

good luck in figuring out why prices are so high... I guess it is because they can...
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Old 06-16-2004, 04:48 PM
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... messer rod mg289 rated at 75,000psi...2lbs of it .
so i go up to pay .....he said no tax right ....yep....that comes to 120 bucks .....WHAT!!!!....buddy you better check that again...he checks ...yep 120 bucks ..it is 60 bucks a pound...well after a few selected words about theiving bastards....i went back to select a little cheaper rod ...well was going to go with mg262 ..80,000psi at 10 a pound ...but there was none so i settled on mg260 rated at 64,000psi...and 40 bucks for 2 pounds....i was like sh!t just last week i got 20 lbs of 309 for 80 bucks ...

Well I am not familiar with any of those rods. Is Messer the brand? I by 99 percent nickel rod for my repair on cast and it run around $25 a pound. I have bought from a few different makers in the past all of it was in the same neighborhood. The 99 nickel rod can be machined after welding that is why I buy it. That MG289 for $60 a pound it better weld itself.

Rod for oily cast???? If you preheat to a very dull red oil should not be a problem.
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Old 06-16-2004, 05:44 PM
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yes it is www.messer-mg.com they make alot of alloy welding rods
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Old 06-16-2004, 06:58 PM
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i use ni 99 also.just bought 2 lbs for 22.50. joe;s weld pic look like he needs a lot of help.
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Old 06-16-2004, 08:44 PM
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I guess I'm "odd-man-out"....I always use ni55. It's a little stronger than ni99, but you can still machine it (if you have to). Tensile is 70,000 p.s.i.
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Ni55 is generally considered "not machinable" but you can grind on it with the higher tensile strength you get a harder and more brittle weld deposit.
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Old 06-16-2004, 10:30 PM
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Well, I'll be honest with you shade'......I never tried ni99. I used ni55 to fix an old park bench (which franz admonished me not to touch, lest I get sued when it breaks). The bench is holding together perfectly.....(and YES....people DO sit on it).......

The other project I used it on was a vise. I've got an old Wilton in my shop that had a swivel base which would never hold. I used ni55 to fix it

Although the vise doesn't swivel any more, it, in fact DOESN'T MOVE AT ALL !
It's now a good, strong vise that I can depend on.

These are just 2 instances where I used ni55, and it worked great !
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lol...when all else fails...weld it solid
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