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Old 03-20-2014, 12:23 AM
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Default Standard Tools No. 1

I bought Charlie a new tailstock chuck last week, a Standard Tools Improved No.1.
Made by The Standard Tool Company of Cleveland Ohio
The No.1 designation apparently refers to the MT1 shank and they also made a No.2 with an MT2 shank.

According this this website these were made in the late 1800's to early 1900's but I know no more about them than you can read on the Beautiful Iron page.
The pictures there are kinda watery but still informative.

So little Charlie finally owns an accessory that is older than he is.

Found it at ReTool for $30. I looked at it one day last week & managed to walk away.
I talked it over with Charlie and he said he had to have it, Mildred said it was ok by her so I went back the next day and got it.
That's practicing self-restraint in my understanding of the principle. lol

Now then, if you're as uneducated about the Standard chucks as I am here's what sets them apart from any other drill chuck I've ever owned: the jaws do not slide up & down.
They interlace like your fingers do when you clasp them together.

So I got you some pitchers to look at, about 2 posts worth.
I think they're all self-explanatory except maybe that the screw that opens & closes the jaws has a square hole in one side. The key to Charlie's 4 jaw chuck operates it just fine.
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:29 AM
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Never seen anything like that. Looks to be in damn fine shape for a 100 year old tool. You certainly can't beat the price. How do well does it hold drill bits that have the 3 flats?
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:32 AM
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The first picture is the square opening for the chuck key.
The others show the range of bits this chuck will accommodate.

I've not had much chance to try it out but my first impression is that this old tool just might be better than the other 2 I have for this little old lathe.
We'll see as the opportunity comes along.
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:34 AM
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How do well does it hold drill bits that have the 3 flats?
I have no idea but that's likely to be a problem if not outright prohibition.
But Charlie don't keer - he just wanted it anyway.
It has been so long since he's had a new toy!
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Now, I didn't even think of Charlie.


It took every bit of my restraint as well to leave that laying up there on the counter. I finally convinced myself that I'd have to buy a taper conversion for it to fit anything. Had I remembered him, it wouldn't have cost ya $30, lol.

I wasn't even sure what it was, but as wonderful old tools go, it is a great example. I really had thought it was some type of tap holder but was missing pieces.
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Old 03-20-2014, 10:39 AM
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Damn!! Just when you think you know someone, they go off and get hi-tech on ya!!..........


A very interesting piece of hardware, I would have bought it in a heartbeat.
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That is neat! Never seen one like that, like dubby I would have thought it was some type of tap holder.

My drill press has a #1 MT spindle. Hard to find bit for it, but I've used a Jacobs drill chuck for ages. 1/8 to 1/2" work fine, but that chuck lets drills spin too often. Finally bit the bullet and bought an Albrecht and adapter.

Oh my those darn Albrecht Drill Chucks are way too nice. They multiplied, so not only does the drill have one, but a R8 and MT3 versions appeared for the mill and lathe.
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Looks good! I have a twin only mine says made by the Skinner Chuck co. but also has Standard No 42 improved stamped on it. Plus I have the original key
The key also has Standard tool Co stamped on it. Do you want the key dimensions?

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Old 03-20-2014, 11:53 AM
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I wasn't even sure what it was, but as wonderful old tools go, it is a great example. I really had thought it was some type of tap holder but was missing pieces.
That was my first thought too, on the first day and Lyle didn't correct me by showing me the Beautiful Iron website.
When I went back the second day there was another guy who showed it to me so I decided it must work as a drill chuck too.
I had decided to buy it anyway.
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A very interesting piece of hardware, I would have bought it in a heartbeat.
I was afraid you would have beaten me to it.

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Oh my those darn Albrecht Drill Chucks are way too nice. They multiplied, so not only does the drill have one, but a R8 and MT3 versions appeared for the mill and lathe.
I have a 5/8 inch Albrecht for my old Clausing drill press and a 1/8th too, which I bought at this same store for $25 a couple of years ago.
They didn't know what it was until I told them - after I had paid for it.
My problem with the big one is getting drills out of it after it clamps down under load.
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Looks good! I have a twin only mine says made by the Skinner Chuck co. but also has Standard No 42 improved stamped on it. Plus I have the original key
The key also has Standard tool Co stamped on it. Do you want the key dimensions?

Ted
Didn't know Skinner made them, Ted but my 4 jaw key works just fine for this thing.
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Wonder if it would hold an end mill from slipping? Let us know if you try it.
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