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Old 11-21-2013, 06:57 AM
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Default Gonna get you out of the way!!!!Sucka (snow plow push blade)

Well, here is the second installment to Snoops QC and one of the primary reasons for doing it..

I am tired of shoveling, snow blowing with small machine.. So Snoop is small enough to fit in just about all the areas I will have to do..

I started this project about a month ago, but was waiting till I had the QC done.

This was my old Fisher plow from my old plow truck.. It was completely beat. had been fixed numerous times and the bottom blade carriage actually sat 1" farther to the rear than it was supposed to..

I ended up making up some new bottom pivots and welding them in.. I also cracked both end upright supports and welded these back together with some skins..
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:06 AM
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I just about completely took it down to it's barest parts.. Anything that is extra weight..

At this point not sure of which things are needed for strength and such, so kind of going for what was there on the basic blade..

I think I'm gonna get rid of the stock plow pivots and make up something different..

Snoop only has a 2 spool hydraulic controller and I will be needing a 3 spool or a seperate spool for the left right double acting cylinder.

Problem is there is no pass thru port for a direct fit to Snoops standard unit..

Question is do I take from the out flow or do I find a true 3 spool and be done with it..

UP/down double acting, UP/Down/ float, up/down double acting is what I would need..
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:07 AM
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Jenn, does Snoop have rear hydraulic outlets?
If it does then you can tap into them to run the blade cylinders.
Remember that angling the blade will create side draft issues with the tractor.
That blade was pretty beat! Most people would have scrapped it. But since you had to cut it down it was a good save.
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Old 11-21-2013, 11:46 AM
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I was going to say, that Im surprised I missed this thread, but I see you just started it this morning. Looks like you got your initial use out of the fisher plow !
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Old 11-21-2013, 11:46 AM
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Jen I don't have detailed knowledge of your hyd system but usually the cheapest and easiest way to do what you need is to use a selector valve. One of your current valves would run to the selector and you just select which circuit you want to operate and pull the lever. I'll try to find a link with a better explanation.

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Old 11-21-2013, 11:48 AM
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Here's a Parker valve. http://www.parker.com/portal/site/PA...(25+GPM)&Wtky=

There are a lot of manf and styles of these.

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Old 11-21-2013, 11:54 AM
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Dan is right about the side draft. I plow with my loader, even though I have a jeep and 3/4 P/U with blades, and the loader will get pushed sideways. At which point I usually have to go to using the bucket for removal. My quick tach blade is HEAVY, but I still get pushed around. My machine has a factory weight kit on it, which puts it at 7k, about the weight of your F250.

Im guessing my blade weighs close to a grand. Its not a conversion, its long, and built heavy, and I still go sideways, and Im only cleaning the lane (12-14' wide) from the road to the house, not a parking lot or something large, where you can accumulate allot of material.

You can see I added some wings, as the paint does not match..
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Old 11-21-2013, 11:59 AM
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The draft is no joke. Last winter I had a three point angle blade on my 4320 (13,000 lbs) and ended up slideways more times than I would like.

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Looking good is the blade going to be wide enough when angled to be wider than your wheels?
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:03 PM
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Looking good is the blade going to be wide enough when angled to be wider than your wheels?
That is one of the considerations for sure.
I suggest making a flopover blade linkage. No hydraulics required. You set up link arms with pins top and bottom of the blade on both ends. To change angle drop the blade, back up and turn. The arms will be straight forward on the leading side and at right angles to the tire on the trailing side. To change angle to the other side, flop it down, back up and turn the other way.
The length of the arms determine the angle of the blade and you will probably have to decide what amount of thrust you can handle. generally it will be fine till it starts to pile up and then you will have to lift the blade and push the load off to the side.
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