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Old 03-03-2007, 06:18 PM
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Default o/a cylinder prices?

Stopped by 2 of the lws to price cylinders(in Sioux City,Iowa). Wow talk about sticker shock!

k size ox $286.58 and $26.12 for the fill
ac145 $216.31 and $46.58 for the fill
and a flimsy cart at $136.

Is this common pricing? Are there any cheaper outlets? I know that prices continue to go up but it just seems high. If I remember correctly the last setup I bought I gave $150 for a full set at an auction.

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Old 03-03-2007, 06:58 PM
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It's been a while since I filled.

I have the larger tanks 145 ac, 220 oxygen. To get the larger size was a lease from Airgas. Just got my lease statement in the mail $130/yr for the two tanks.

Uh, come to think of it does Acetylene go bad with age? It's been a few YEARS since the tanks were refilled. Come to think of it's been three or five YEARS since they were last filled.

EDIT: CART -- I just bought a HF special hand dolly. Modified that to hold the cylinders, etc. Old Ammo boxes are great little "tack weld on" tool boxes for the little stuff you want to keep with the torches.
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Old 03-03-2007, 07:26 PM
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Uh, come to think of it does Acetylene go bad with age? It's been a few YEARS since the tanks were refilled.
Only if you leave the valve open.

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At my LWS buddy just purchased a set;

$150 for a 120CF O2
$150 for a #4 Acetylene (~125cf)
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Old 03-03-2007, 09:00 PM
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My opinion is: "OWN YOUR BOTTLES" !

My local Airgas will happily exchange bottles.....(they call them "customer owned").

I haven't checked lately, but Argon, Acetylene & O² are about $20.00 (give or take), for 150 c.f.

You take the "big hit" when you buy the bottles......but then, refills are next to nothing !.......and if you can get the bottles "On-The-Cheap".........so much the better.......(like I did, at a recent "swap-meet").

If you want to buy a "new" bottle......go here:

http://www.ramweldingsupply.com/

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Old 03-03-2007, 09:24 PM
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That's about what they are here so when I saw a set on Craig's list for 240.00

I got em' since the Acy bottle was that much new.

came with torches too.
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Old 03-03-2007, 09:47 PM
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Praxair in Bismarck is selling lifetime lease for oxygen K for $257 $28.30Refill, S oxygen $238 refill $23.90 Acetylene WS $213 refill $34.95 All lifetime leases come with first fill free. Still debating on buying tanks, with the two tanks and torch kit its over $600. In the back of my mind I would like to put that 600 towards a plasma cutter. But you still need to be able to heat and bend but I wonder how well a big bertha propane torch would work for heating and bending
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Old 03-03-2007, 10:48 PM
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Praxair in Bismarck is selling lifetime lease for oxygen K for $257 $28.30Refill, S oxygen $238 refill $23.90 Acetylene WS $213 refill $34.95 All lifetime leases come with first fill free. Still debating on buying tanks, with the two tanks and torch kit its over $600. In the back of my mind I would like to put that 600 towards a plasma cutter. But you still need to be able to heat and bend but I wonder how well a big bertha propane torch would work for heating and bending
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If you intend to do business with Praxair for the rest of your life, that might be the way to go.

Clyinders have to be tested every few years and sometimes the cylinders will fail a pressure test. Valves sometimes have to be repaired or replaced.

Big Bertha propane torch will heat alright, if you are taking about Red Dragon torches that use propane only, no oxy. Loud roar and you do not have the fine flame area control that you have with a regular O/A torch. Flame covers a large area.

Can not braze with plasma cutter. Or solder either.

Could get the Oxy clyinder only and a propane tip for heating and bending.
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:45 AM
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In ND their isn't many places you can purchases cylinders, the only other one i know of is TSC. Our local farm supply exchanges praxair tanks. Big bertha torch with propane only your right it heats a big area at once. I dont braze much and the soldering i use a little hand held torch. I have concidered using propane instead of acetylene, praxair says you dont save much because of the high pressures you have to use with oxygen. Whats the deal with the testing of the cylinders, is it under warranty with a lifetime?
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Whats the deal with the testing of the cylinders, is it under warranty with a lifetime?
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Fed DOT Regs, I think that it is their Regs require it.
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Old 03-05-2007, 02:41 PM
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How long should one kick oneself for passing up bottles at yard sales?

I can't count the number of deals from the last few years I passed on. You know, the "I don't need them now, I'll find them when I need them". Right.

Oh well, at least I got my small tanks dead cheap ages ago. But the new prices for a tank for my mig are insane. I'll be eating KD for ages.
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