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They are forged steel so not likely to break under heavy use and with that leg going all the way down to a pad on the floor or ground you can wail on them till the cows come home and not hurt anything...
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Yup, and ideally if you are going to really be beating on something you want to hit towards the leg part that is making contact with the floor Vs the front jaw which is on a hinge...
HMMMM... I've never broken a bench vise before--I guess I'm just not using a big enough hammer!
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Hammer not always necessary....... Enough leverage the right (or wrong?) way will do it too. Been there, done that, may still have the vice, will have to look.

Love seeing what you are up to and working on Jen, just don't have much to contribute though. Certainly on the list of members I'd love to meet someday if I can do a tour!

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Here are a few pictures of some wrought iron .....
Thanks, I learned something today. My place was all cleared farmland 100 years ago, you can't walk 50' through the woods without tripping over a chunk of some kind of forged iron. I should start collecting the stuff
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Jen, I have a rusty railroad spike here I picked up by the RR tracks not too long ago that has all that weathered wood-grain look. I doubt it's wrought iron, but I guess an ancient one might have risen to the surface.

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... I should start collecting the stuff
Indeed, you should. I have a few scraps of stuff that were straps and fittings from a buggy or wagon. Found them near the ruins of an old stone house foundation in New Jersey. If nothing else, knife makers sometimes use pieces to make guards and bolsters. Sometimes you run across an old property marker.
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Here is a sample of the scrap iron laying around. I don't see the striations you are talking about in the wagon/plow parts so thats not wrought?

The second pic is small pieces laminated together but the individual pieces seem to have the striations?
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Jen, I have a rusty railroad spike here I picked up by the RR tracks not too long ago that has all that weathered wood-grain look. I doubt it's wrought iron, but I guess an ancient one might have risen to the surface.
Twenty five or so years or so ago I was in Nome AK working on a gold dredge upgrade for Westgold. Behind the shop were several pieces of anchor chain and maybe even an anchor that had the same look. I attributed the look to just salt water corrosion following the natural grain of the steel. Lord knows how old the chain was.
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Here is a sample of the scrap iron laying around. I don't see the striations you are talking about in the wagon/plow parts so thats not wrought?

The second pic is small pieces laminated together but the individual pieces seem to have the striations?
Looks like you might have a few pieces there..

Sadly.. Wrought iron really is an old fashioned item.. Yes it resists rust better then anything made today but because of the inclusions if you weld it with modern equipment it will peel the fibers out unless you have a mighty big section covered with bead. The only thing it would be good for today is Forge welded stuff.. or making damascus knives..

For me it works great because I can recycle it into something else of use and it will be around for another 250 years even if left outside..

some grades of Wrought iron are better than others and if worked enough the grain becomes super fine.. The stuff with big lines in it was usually not worked as much or the bloom they started with was a little smaller so didn't get worked as much getting to the finished size..
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Jen, I have a rusty railroad spike here I picked up by the RR tracks not too long ago that has all that weathered wood-grain look. I doubt it's wrought iron, but I guess an ancient one might have risen to the surface.



Indeed, you should. I have a few scraps of stuff that were straps and fittings from a buggy or wagon. Found them near the ruins of an old stone house foundation in New Jersey. If nothing else, knife makers sometimes use pieces to make guards and bolsters. Sometimes you run across an old property marker.
A lot of older mild steel will take on the rust lines of the growth rings from wood it was pounded into..

Maybe you got lucky but I have only seen 1 wrought iron spike in all my years.. It was in a railroad museum and was from a flat track..

The R&R's started using steel as soon as they could because the old Wrought iron spikes would shear if left in to long.
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this is a very nicely made vise. Probably one of the better made vises i have seen..

The material looks like Wrought iron but throws sparks like it has some carbon..

More than likely it is a blister steel with Wrought iron as the base stock..

it was forge welded at the bottom leg and it still has the original welding flux from the day it was made.. (I think thats pretty neat)..

It appears to be a closed die forged vise... it looks like they opened the eye the old fashioned way by slitting it by hand.. Stuck it into the closed die. pressed it and then punched the eye which finished the shape and formed the jaw section..

From what I can tell the screw was done the same way.. At first I thought it was cast iron like the threaded nut..
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