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Old 04-15-2016, 07:25 AM
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I'm curious how you can tell the difference between steel and iron in this instance without destructive testing?
There are several ways...

Lot of it is experience with working with real wrought-iron. It actually has a different texture verses steel.. wrought iron doesn't like square edges.. It will always round out a sharp corner or edge as forged. It will also maintain a mat as forged finish.

If the wrought-iron is old enough and weathered you can actually see the stranding in the material.

Any of the real modern steels will hold sharp corners as forged and the finish as forged is compacted and sharp..

It took me years of forging to be able to mimic the roundness of wrought iron in steel forgings.

I'll post up pictures later with tell tail signs..

Here's a link to my hardware page. If you look at most of the pieces you will see the sharp edges.



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Old 04-15-2016, 07:27 AM
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Damn nice vise!
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Old 04-15-2016, 07:38 AM
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Drooooooollllllllll.......

I don't care how much you paid for it, you suck bigtime.
Funny thing is it was listed for over a month.. I figured it would have sold.

Asking price was 795.00......

I asked if he had any negotiation room.. He came down to 650.00.. He said since I will be using it he would pass it along.. and being a repeat customer. He also threw in a couple of sets of goat skin tig gloves..

Was really nice he came down that much..
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Old 04-15-2016, 09:24 AM
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I bought one in a thrift shop a few years ago,its tiny,maybe 4'' tall.
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:12 PM
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Explain to me what a post vise is for. I looked at some images and read a forum or two but just don't see what benefit the post has...
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:20 PM
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Explain to me what a post vise is for. I looked at some images and read a forum or two but just don't see what benefit the post has...
They are forged steel so not likely to break under heavy use and with that leg going all the way down to a pad on the floor or ground you can wail on them till the cows come home and not hurt anything...
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Yup, and ideally if you are going to really be beating on something you want to hit towards the leg part that is making contact with the floor Vs the front jaw which is on a hinge..

Just some of the stuff that will be covered in my upcoming book..
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Old 04-15-2016, 07:37 PM
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I'm curious how you can tell the difference between steel and iron in this instance without destructive testing?
Here are a few pictures of some wrought iron.. These have been exposed to weather.. The first piece was pulled out of a brook just below a mill..

It probably had been in there for 100 years.. What you are seeing are the pure iron particles interspersed with silica, slag and impurities..

Wrought iron is the true embodiment of being forged properly and creating a true grain structure to increase strength..

You can't forge wrought iron across the grain or it will delaminate.. Nor can you bend it in a sharp 90D angle without making some special moves.. Also can't slit it with out punching it first.. Kind of like drilling holes in the ends of cracks to keep them from continuing..

Wrought iron splits just like wood.. and if bent sharply will crack on the outside of a bend just like wood..
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If I defend myself I am attacked.

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I'd like to think of something smart, but I don't want to hurt myself.

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Old 04-15-2016, 11:25 PM
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Jen, That vice is badass. You been doing some really cool stuff here.
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I bought one in a thrift shop a few years ago,its tiny,maybe 4'' tall.
The small vises can take a surprising amount of abuse.. the vise I started out on was only a 4" and was my Dads..

4" vise mounted badly inside of a broken cast iron JD 540A skidder outer axle carrier with a 10lbs anvil resting on the floor and a wood fired boiler was my first setup.. Took forever to heat up the metal red hot but when your 8 years old 10 or 15minutes would go by quickly..
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