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Old 08-25-2012, 11:47 AM
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Old 08-25-2012, 04:01 PM
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Old 08-25-2012, 06:57 PM
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Thanks all Guys and gals. This will be a group response if thats okay..

You guys and gals are just as nutty as I am.. There are some very talented people on here and I'm sure there isn't one among you if you had the opertunity wouldn't take it to learn a different craft..


One of my personal traits good, bad or indifferent:
I am not one to sit idley by and not put my hand in somehow.. The deal was I would use his equipment and he would assist..

Well, that went out the window.. I felt just about completely useless today since all I did was the design phase of this and figuring out where I wanted everything to go..

He did all the sewing, 90% of the cutting and 100% of I don't really understand why you are doing it that way..


Originally he had thought I would be using a very light and less sturdy apron..

The apron is going to be very heavy.. I figured better having to much material and cutting it down would be easier and less messy than adding pieces in..

It's come just about to full blossom though I can see all ready that there will need to be some changes but I feel so badly taking up his time..

As far as gifts are concerned: I did sharpen his scissors while I was there and maybe that might be a great gift.. A new pair of hand forged shears..


So the main body is made from brain tanned and smoked Bison split. The upper darker color is bison non split. The leg patches are oil tanned 10oz as will be the pockets tomorrow.. I am hoping the brain tanned Bison will hold up.

The belt is full grain 10oz Cow leather.

The leg straps of which there are 4 total are the same material as the patches.

It's pretty rigid and not as pliable as I'd like it to be but for my first proto type I think I'll get some good first time use out of it before I start cutting into it.
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:08 PM
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Here you can see the top pads added and how big the apron actually is..

You can see the sparks in the machine behind the leather man.. This machine is used to split leather. Split FYI it cuts the leather to a predetermined thickness. If you guys have ever watched the MOD squad the leather moc's the actor was wearing on all the episodes were made by this guy..


I don't have any pic's with me wearing it but tomorrow is pocket day so Ill model it once it's done.
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My attack thoughts are attacking my invulnerability.

I'd like to think of something smart, but I don't want to hurt myself.

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Old 08-25-2012, 07:09 PM
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Jen..

neat project....
a little bit of Lexol wiped on the stiffer parts should help speed the break in and encourage suppleness as you use it...(agway usually carries it)
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:11 PM
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Here are the leg straps attached and the pads fully sewn on.
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If I defend myself I am attacked.

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My attack thoughts are attacking my invulnerability.

I'd like to think of something smart, but I don't want to hurt myself.

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Old 08-25-2012, 07:23 PM
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Jen..

neat project....
a little bit of Lexol wiped on the stiffer parts should help speed the break in and encourage suppleness as you use it...(agway usually carries it)
Thanks.

Funny you should mention that..

He sells his own brand of leather oil.. I asked him about treating the leather with something to hasten breakin and to nurish the leather and he said I should never have to treat it with anything.. Of course I'm not one to listen.

In my research on leather and the different processes of tanning it basically came down to 3 different types.

Oil, chrome and brain.. Oil being the most stable and strength, then chrome then brain tanning which is the oldest method.

I hope the bison holds up.. It's pretty flexible and very supple.. Since I am no leather expert I always how doubts as to the strength of something until put into use.
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If I defend myself I am attacked.

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Old 08-25-2012, 07:29 PM
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Jenn, if for what ever reason they don't work for the apron, they will work for chaps and bucking hay. I made a pair of chaps when I was about 18 and used them when I was stacking hay.
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:30 PM
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Jen, mine has a good belt and buckle on the back. My old one used leather strings, but the wider belt and good buckle digs in less. For my leg straps, I punched holes and reinforced with round metal grommets. Then I used leather laces/strings with a clip snap. I have had some nails catch on the apron and break the leg strings, better they break than be pulled to the ground. So if you haven't considered building in a weak spot, should be considered.
When you say strings you mean more like a mule skinners apron? Kind of like a handymans apron with a split down the middle but using ties for waist strap and legs?


My current apron uses some leg straps I had the same leather guy make for me when the apron was brand new many years back.. I've had great service from them so when back to the same type for the lower leg..

The upper thigh was plagueing me since I didn't have a good way to attach them to the Bison hide.. The material is pretty thin there so I opted to sew the straps on with buckles which I dont' really like . We'll have to see how they work..

Sorry but I couldn't come up with any better of and idea..

At this point I've used nearly 20sqft of leather..


Here is his (Herbie's) website..


http://www.pelkeymade.com/
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If I defend myself I am attacked.

My meaningless thoughts are showing me a meaningless world.

My attack thoughts are attacking my invulnerability.

I'd like to think of something smart, but I don't want to hurt myself.

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Lathe? Maybe..... 1958 SBL 13"
Yeti Esseti Aka running welder on 3phase.

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Old 08-25-2012, 07:30 PM
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Thanks.

Funny you should mention that..

He sells his own brand of leather oil.. I asked him about treating the leather with something to hasten breakin and to nurish the leather and he said I should never have to treat it with anything.. Of course I'm not one to listen.

In my research on leather and the different processes of tanning it basically came down to 3 different types.

Oil, chrome and brain.. Oil being the most stable and strength, then chrome then brain tanning which is the oldest method.

I hope the bison holds up.. It's pretty flexible and very supple.. Since I am no leather expert I always how doubts as to the strength of something until put into use.
one more... vegatable tan... Tannic acid.. (used to be harvested from oak trees) thus the term "Oak Tanned"

http://www.braintan.com/barktan/2tannins.htm
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