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Old 10-30-2018, 09:24 AM
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Hello all, was perusing ebay to purchase some metals to make a fire striker. saw 1084, 5160 and 1095 stuff. had purchased 1095 before, now i'm seeing this other stuff. which one would produce the most sparks? Thanks
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1095 has the most carbon. Will it strike more sparks? Have no clue.
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Old 10-30-2018, 01:20 PM
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Can you find some older, worn out USA-made files? (Or other older non-Chinese) Some of them should be quite high carbon, possibly W2.
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Old 10-30-2018, 01:56 PM
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When a steel has a 4 digit name like that, the last 2 digits are the carbon content.
1095 has 0.95% carbon
1084 has 0.84% carbon
5160 has 0.60% carbon

The first 2 digits give info about the other alloys in the steel. 10 means its basically just plain iron and carbon.

For 5160 the 5 designates it is a chromium alloy and the 1 designates it is 1% chrome.

If you've ever heard of 4140 steel, that is a moly alloy with 0.40% carbon.

More complex alloys get names like O1, A2, D2, etc. but the 4 digit code covers a lot.

I'd think that either 1095 or 1084 would make a better striker than 5160, if you are using flint. If you are trying to scrape a ferro rod, then 5160 works just fine, I use knives made with it all the time.
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:03 AM
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Thanks all for the education.
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Old 10-31-2018, 07:38 PM
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Let us know what you decide to use and how it works out. I've never made a fire striker before, but use the back of my knife on a ferro rod every time I go camping
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for fire strikers your better off case hardening the items as the item needs to be hardened to throw off the sparks..

A soft piece of 1095 will throw marginal sparks but a fully hardened piece will throw good sparks but more than likely will get broken the first time you drop it..
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My 2c worth,

I have 2 strikers, one by Cash and a homemade unit.

The Cash striker out performs the Homemade one on the same piece of flint by a big margin.

It is so easy to ignite the char with the Cash manufactured model.

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Old 11-05-2018, 05:56 PM
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Home made is a little different than a professionally made item, even if home made..

Again, the old ones including frizzens were made form wrought iron and then case hardened to get the desired outer high carbon content..

The higher the carbon and harder the steel the more sparks it will throw.. This just means case hardening longer..
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