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Old 09-05-2013, 08:48 PM
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Default Stick welder shocking me on DCEP

While doing that car hauler axle install I used 7018 rod on DCEP as specified by the Miller calculator.

I got the crapped knocked out of me every time I touched the metal or held the ground clamp. Even through gloves and standing on my feet with rubber sole boots.

I was wet with sweat and my gloves were also damp but I wasn't grounded was I?

Anyway, I changed over to DCEN and it never shocked me again. I also noticed the rod ran better on DCEN than it did on DCEP

What the heck was happening? I don't usually get shocked and as hot as it is here I am usually always wet with sweat.
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7018 is always better on electrode negative.
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7018 is always better on electrode negative.

Well someone oughtta tell Miller that! I thought their calculators were pretty good as a general guide but they don't even suggest 7018 can be ran well on DCEN.
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Kind of sounds like bacon sizzling on DCEN. Slag comes off easier too.
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Kind of sounds like bacon sizzling on DCEN. Slag comes off easier too.
Sure does. Arc is much smoother and the puddle easier to define. Slag definitely comes off easier. I had to pound that crap off on DCEP.

Anyway, my actual post reason was to figure out why I got shocked on DCEP and not on DCEN? Does it have to do with the flow of the voltage?
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Kind of sounds like bacon sizzling on DCEN. Slag comes off easier too.
And the added benefit of no penetration.
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I can't even guess why DCEN would not shock you when DCEP did. Strange.

I always wondered why my old Lincoln book listed 7018 as an AC (primarily) or DCEN rod, no mention of DCEP.
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And the added benefit of no penetration.
But...I've always used that for vertical downhand
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Well someone oughtta tell Miller that! I thought their calculators were pretty good as a general guide but they don't even suggest 7018 can be ran well on DCEN.
DCEN is for less penetration if you wanted it for cosmetics or a cap. DCEP is for penetration that's why the run differently just throwing that out there

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Did you ever figure out why it was shocking you?

Any chance this is a TIG welder and something is whacked with the HF start circuitry?
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